I agree we could in one way or another perform lobbying in the typical sense -- including forming a PAC and backing up our pleas with a few bucks. Does anyone have an estimate of the amount we would need to spend to become a greater force than we are now or than we could be given the current approximate "advocacy" budget? Stated otherwise: Would we be able to raise enough money so that a PAC would be meaningfully more effective than we COULD be as a 501(c)(3)? By the way I've stated this last question it should be obvious that I do not believe we are as effective as possible by staying within our current tax status. 73 Jim W. Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director, Great Lakes Division k8je@arrl.org - Tel. 513-459-0142 ARRL -- The reason Amateur Radio is! GREAT LAKES DIVISION CONVENTION, September 6, 2003: See http://greatlakes.arrl.org