[arrl-odv:23420] October 4 EC meeting minutes
Here are the minutes of the October 4 EC meeting. Regarding agenda #9.1.3, the EC had an extended discussion of the pros and cons of Director Rehman's original proposal and decided to recommend something a bit different. It's very important to emphasize that this is only a recommendation from the Executive Committee that the Board consider soliciting input from the membership on the issue. That's all. It is not a proposal that the Board adopt data privileges for Techs and Novices on 15 meters as an objective, and it is most definitely not an ARRL proposal to the FCC. That would come later, if at all, after the Board has had an opportunity to weigh membership input. When the minutes are made public we will try to emphasize that. 73, David Sumner, K1ZZ Secretary
I see no mention in the Minutes of consideration of the IT Strategic Planning Committee. This does not comport with: ”While the meeting minutes will be available in due course, President Craigie has asked me to report that the EC considered Director Rehman's request with regard to the study of the possible creation of an Information Technology Strategic Planning Committee. The committee's unanimous opinion was that the Board action referring the matter to the A&F Committee should stand.” (From K1ZZ email to ODV on 10/4/2014) Doug K4AC From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 12:21 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:23420] October 4 EC meeting minutes Here are the minutes of the October 4 EC meeting. Regarding agenda #9.1.3, the EC had an extended discussion of the pros and cons of Director Rehman’s original proposal and decided to recommend something a bit different. It’s very important to emphasize that this is only a recommendation from the Executive Committee that the Board consider soliciting input from the membership on the issue. That’s all. It is not a proposal that the Board adopt data privileges for Techs and Novices on 15 meters as an objective, and it is most definitely not an ARRL proposal to the FCC. That would come later, if at all, after the Board has had an opportunity to weigh membership input. When the minutes are made public we will try to emphasize that. 73, David Sumner, K1ZZ Secretary
Doug, your request was considered under agenda item 10, when the status of Board-directed action items was reviewed. The Board had assigned the study to the A&F Committee and no EC member proposed to change that, so the action remains with A&F. Dave From: Rehman, Doug, K4AC Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 1:00 PM To: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ; arrl-odv Subject: RE: [arrl-odv:23420] October 4 EC meeting minutes I see no mention in the Minutes of consideration of the IT Strategic Planning Committee. This does not comport with: ”While the meeting minutes will be available in due course, President Craigie has asked me to report that the EC considered Director Rehman's request with regard to the study of the possible creation of an Information Technology Strategic Planning Committee. The committee's unanimous opinion was that the Board action referring the matter to the A&F Committee should stand.” (From K1ZZ email to ODV on 10/4/2014) Doug K4AC From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 12:21 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:23420] October 4 EC meeting minutes Here are the minutes of the October 4 EC meeting. Regarding agenda #9.1.3, the EC had an extended discussion of the pros and cons of Director Rehman’s original proposal and decided to recommend something a bit different. It’s very important to emphasize that this is only a recommendation from the Executive Committee that the Board consider soliciting input from the membership on the issue. That’s all. It is not a proposal that the Board adopt data privileges for Techs and Novices on 15 meters as an objective, and it is most definitely not an ARRL proposal to the FCC. That would come later, if at all, after the Board has had an opportunity to weigh membership input. When the minutes are made public we will try to emphasize that. 73, David Sumner, K1ZZ Secretary
The Minutes for agenda item 10 state: “10. Mr. Sumner distributed a chart of past Board actions. Action had been completed on several items since the previous meeting of the Executive Committee, and several others had been added to the list as a result of the July 2014 Board Meeting.” The 11th Edition of Robert’s Rules of Order, page 471, beginning line 9, states, “When a question is considered informally, the same information should be recorded as under the regular rules, since the only informality in the proceedings is in the debate.” My request was specifically for the EC to put the question of establishing an Information Tecnology Strategic Planning Committee before the entire Board for a vote. This is in direct contrast to what, if any, progress the A&FC has made on it. The EC considered my request. My request should therefore appear in the Minutes along with the “committee's unanimous opinion was that the Board action referring the matter to the A&F Committee should stand.” Doug K4AC From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ [mailto:dsumner@arrl.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 1:20 PM To: Rehman, Doug, K4AC; arrl-odv Subject: RE: [arrl-odv:23420] October 4 EC meeting minutes Doug, your request was considered under agenda item 10, when the status of Board-directed action items was reviewed. The Board had assigned the study to the A&F Committee and no EC member proposed to change that, so the action remains with A&F. Dave From: Rehman, Doug, K4AC Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 1:00 PM To: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ; arrl-odv Subject: RE: [arrl-odv:23420] October 4 EC meeting minutes I see no mention in the Minutes of consideration of the IT Strategic Planning Committee. This does not comport with: ”While the meeting minutes will be available in due course, President Craigie has asked me to report that the EC considered Director Rehman's request with regard to the study of the possible creation of an Information Technology Strategic Planning Committee. The committee's unanimous opinion was that the Board action referring the matter to the A&F Committee should stand.” (From K1ZZ email to ODV on 10/4/2014) Doug K4AC From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 12:21 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:23420] October 4 EC meeting minutes Here are the minutes of the October 4 EC meeting. Regarding agenda #9.1.3, the EC had an extended discussion of the pros and cons of Director Rehman’s original proposal and decided to recommend something a bit different. It’s very important to emphasize that this is only a recommendation from the Executive Committee that the Board consider soliciting input from the membership on the issue. That’s all. It is not a proposal that the Board adopt data privileges for Techs and Novices on 15 meters as an objective, and it is most definitely not an ARRL proposal to the FCC. That would come later, if at all, after the Board has had an opportunity to weigh membership input. When the minutes are made public we will try to emphasize that. 73, David Sumner, K1ZZ Secretary
Doug, I will be glad to add a sentence to the minutes. Dave ________________________________________ From: arrl-odv [arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] on behalf of Rehman, Doug, K4AC Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 2:18 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:23427] Re: October 4 EC meeting minutes The Minutes for agenda item 10 state: “10. Mr. Sumner distributed a chart of past Board actions. Action had been completed on several items since the previous meeting of the Executive Committee, and several others had been added to the list as a result of the July 2014 Board Meeting.” The 11th Edition of Robert’s Rules of Order, page 471, beginning line 9, states, “When a question is considered informally, the same information should be recorded as under the regular rules, since the only informality in the proceedings is in the debate.” My request was specifically for the EC to put the question of establishing an Information Tecnology Strategic Planning Committee before the entire Board for a vote. This is in direct contrast to what, if any, progress the A&FC has made on it. The EC considered my request. My request should therefore appear in the Minutes along with the “committee's unanimous opinion was that the Board action referring the matter to the A&F Committee should stand.” Doug K4AC From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ [mailto:dsumner@arrl.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 1:20 PM To: Rehman, Doug, K4AC; arrl-odv Subject: RE: [arrl-odv:23420] October 4 EC meeting minutes Doug, your request was considered under agenda item 10, when the status of Board-directed action items was reviewed. The Board had assigned the study to the A&F Committee and no EC member proposed to change that, so the action remains with A&F. Dave From: Rehman, Doug, K4AC Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 1:00 PM To: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ; arrl-odv Subject: RE: [arrl-odv:23420] October 4 EC meeting minutes I see no mention in the Minutes of consideration of the IT Strategic Planning Committee. This does not comport with: ”While the meeting minutes will be available in due course, President Craigie has asked me to report that the EC considered Director Rehman's request with regard to the study of the possible creation of an Information Technology Strategic Planning Committee. The committee's unanimous opinion was that the Board action referring the matter to the A&F Committee should stand.” (From K1ZZ email to ODV on 10/4/2014) Doug K4AC From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 12:21 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:23420] October 4 EC meeting minutes Here are the minutes of the October 4 EC meeting. Regarding agenda #9.1.3, the EC had an extended discussion of the pros and cons of Director Rehman’s original proposal and decided to recommend something a bit different. It’s very important to emphasize that this is only a recommendation from the Executive Committee that the Board consider soliciting input from the membership on the issue. That’s all. It is not a proposal that the Board adopt data privileges for Techs and Novices on 15 meters as an objective, and it is most definitely not an ARRL proposal to the FCC. That would come later, if at all, after the Board has had an opportunity to weigh membership input. When the minutes are made public we will try to emphasize that. 73, David Sumner, K1ZZ Secretary
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Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ