David Count me in on that too. All of the professional engineering organizations that I belong to have all of their top staff be licensed professionals.  The ARRL should be no different. In my opinion it would be out of line to have a non-human in the CO pisition. Ed Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: David Norris <k5uz@suddenlink.net> </div><div>Date:12/04/2014 8:38 PM (GMT-06:00) </div><div>To: "James F. Boehner MD" <jboehner01@yahoo.com> </div><div>Cc: Marty Woll <n6vi@socal.rr.com>, "<arrl-odv@arrl.org>" <arrl-odv@arrl.org>, Bill Edgar N3LLR <n3llr@earthlink.net>, "<dick@pobox.com>" <dick@pobox.com>, Brian Mileshosky <n5zgt@swcp.com> </div><div>Subject: [arrl-odv:23571] Re: BOARD CONFIDENTIAL: CEOSC SmoothDraft CEO Job Description </div><div> </div>All, I appreciate the committee's work. You gents have put considerable time and some good thought in this. However, I too think we should have an active amateur in the CEO slot. So much of this organization's operations do require more than a cursory knowledge of the hobby. As stated previously this will be invaluable when dealing with other societies across the globe as well as our members. We are primarily a membership organization which has grown a significant business providing member services and related merchandise. The new CEO must relate to the membership through amateur radio which instills confidence in the members and the whole ARRL at a basic level. Food for thought! 73 David A. Norris, K5UZ Director Delta Division Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2014, at 6:00 AM, "James F. Boehner MD via arrl-odv" <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> wrote: I have to agree. While I understand there must have been quite a lot of discussion on this topic by the committee, I have trouble wrapping my mind around the fact that the one individual who would be the “face” of our organization would not have any experience with what we actually do. I could justify in my mind any of the senior staff positions not being a ham, but the CEO is a different story. Keeping this in mind, I’m about to interview a prospective CEO for our hospital this morning. He definitely has healthcare experience. ’73 de JIM N2ZZ From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of Brian Mileshosky Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 1:47 AM To: Rod Blocksome Cc: Marty Woll; <dick@pobox.com>; <arrl-odv@arrl.org>; Bill Edgar N3LLR Subject: [arrl-odv:23565] Re: BOARD CONFIDENTIAL: CEOSC SmoothDraft CEO Job Description Not sure if this is the appropriate time to pile on (forgive me if it isn't), but I strongly agree with Marty and Rod. Everyone remember your own and others' impressions and nervousness when it was learned that FCC's newly-named Amateur service enforcer wasn't even a ham? How can she possibly know us? Relate to our passions? Truly understand our problems? And that was for a government position meant to serve the amateur community. Think of the lasting impressions cast and credibility concerns that will be raised when members, general hams, and leaders of other member societies around the globe learn that ARRL, the National Association for Amateur Radio and arguably the most influential and respected ham organization in the world, is seeking (or has selected) a CEO whose possession of the most fundamental instrument that enables ARRL to even exist in the first place is...optional. Much will be rightfully expected of ARRL's next CEO, and I like the rest of the committee's list defined thus far, but being an amateur radio operator should be a required gate to pass through. Lead by example and truly be one of whom you endeavor to ultimately serve, otherwise please don't apply. 73, Brian N5ZGT On Dec 3, 2014, at 22:29, Rod Blocksome <rod.blocksome@gmail.com> wrote: Bill, Marty, When I read about item 2, I had the same reaction as Marty. I think the person has to be knowledgeable and experienced in amateur radio AND have a passion for the hobby. I just don’t see how one acquires those attributes without a ham license. Regards, Rod, K0DAS From: Marty Woll Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 11:09 PM To: 'Bill Edgar N3LLR' ; dick@pobox.com ; arrl-odv@arrl.org Subject: [arrl-odv:23563] Re: BOARD CONFIDENTIAL: CEOSC SmoothDraft CEO Job Description Hi, Bill. Thanks for your detailed reply. As to Item 2, I would hope that we will be getting a leader, not just an administrator or general strategist. Others on the Board may feel differently, but I hope our next CEO will be a passionate spokesperson for Amateur Radio, both with the membership and to the outside world. I just don’t see how a non-Ham – or even an inactive ham – could possibly do that. This seems to be an issue ripe for discussion at the Board meeting, as I think it gets to the core of what we want. As for Item 3), it sounds as though you’re really looking for someone who can coach an inexperienced Board member who is open to such coaching. Maybe we should just say that in lieu of the much broader and less applicable term, “board development”. For Item 4, how about specifying “demonstrated ability to work with leaders of foreign organizations” or something to that effect? My overall take is that we should ask specifically for what we really want so we don’t pay for skills or experience that has only fleeting relevance to the job or bypass good candidates who do not possess those inapplicable skills or experience.. 73, Marty N6VI From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of Bill Edgar N3LLR Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 8:44 PM To: 'Marty Woll'; dick@pobox.com; arrl-odv@arrl.org Subject: [arrl-odv:23562] Re: BOARD CONFIDENTIAL: CEOSC Smooth Draft CEO Job Description Marty, Answers to your comments. 1) Right. Name will be corrected. 2) The committee spent considerable time discussing whether an amateur license was mandatory. In the end we felt that an amateur license was highly desirable but we felt we didn’t want to lose an excellent candidate that didn’t have an amateur radio license. 3) You are correct that our board members are nominated by and voted by members. In some cases our board members may not have had the opportunity to serve on other boards. In that case board development would include development of the board to work cohesively together for the good of the organization. 4) The committee thoughts on international business experience was in being familiar with international customs and cultures, being comfortable in working with people from other countries. We aren’t developing significant markets overseas, but we are working with people from other countries and we are trying to influence international amateur radio issues. If another description would be better, we’re open to suggestions. - Bill From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of Marty Woll Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 2:30 AM To: dick@pobox.com; arrl-odv@arrl.org Subject: [arrl-odv:23554] Re: BOARD CONFIDENTIAL: CEOSC Smooth Draft CEO Job Description Hi, Dick. Thanks for sharing this with ODV. I have a few comments from an initial quick read. 1) The first line of text needs the name of our organization corrected. 2) The second bullet under “Program Development” appears at odds with the last bullet under “Qualifications”. How can an Amateur Radio license AND status as a long-term active Ham not be mandatory if the candidate is to provide counsel on all aspects of Amateur Radio to the board? 3) Under “Qualifications”, the fourth bullet includes “board development”. This seems more relevant to an industrial or commercial organization, where management influences the selection of board members. Since our board members are nominated and selected by members, it’s not clear to me how traditional board-development skills or experience would come into play, and inclusion of such suggests a more generic document than I would hope we are getting. 4) The next-to-last bullet under “Qualifications” is a requirement for international business experience. Although the League has significant international exposure on the regulatory front and does attract foreign members, we’re not developing significant markets overseas, dealing with big import / export issues, relocating employees around the world, deciding where to manufacture, or most of the other activities commonly associated with international business. Thus, it’s not clear to me why international business experience is a requirement. I look forward to the discussions of this document and the search process. Thanks to the Committee members for the time they are putting into this effort. 73, Marty N6VI From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of dick@pobox.com Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 8:55 PM To: arrl-odv@arrl.org Subject: [arrl-odv:23549] BOARD CONFIDENTIAL: CEOSC Smooth Draft CEO Job Description Importance: High 2 DEC 2014 - 2254 CST *** BOARD CONFIDENTIAL *** Attached to this message is the result of 14 month's of CEO Search Committee (CEOSC) research and meetings and the input of Executive recruiter Gary Buxton, K0GVT, in the development of this smooth draft the CEO Job Description. It is planned to use this document in public notices advertising this job opening resulting from the retirement of CEO David Sumner, K1ZZ. The CEOSC has also done some research on our current CEO's compensation and benefits package and relocation expenses in order to prepare an appropriate, board-approved, package to be used in candidate negotiations. Both the job description and financial package require ARRL board approval. It is planned to vote on the job description at our January 2014 board meeting. The financial package should be approved before the CEO search is started. The committee is open to questions and suggestions from the other 10 directors, the volunteer officers, and the vice directors. As long as there is no discussion of specific dollar costs or potential candidates, the CEOSC, President Craigie, and CEO Sumner believe this discussion can be held on the ODV reflector. 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