Kermit     Indentured servitude is another option.     There is also another attack on bad solar installations. Besides the equipment, there is a problem with the installers, some of whom are effectively high pressure car salesmen who use unskilled labor to perform the installations. Neither the company owners nor the installers have a clue.     We can discuss at meeting. 73 _______________________________________ John Robert Stratton N5AUS Vice Director Legislative Director West Gulf Division Office:512-445-6262 Cell:512-426-2028 P.O. Box 2232 Austin, Texas 78768-2232 *_______________________________________*** On 7/12/18 9:38 PM, Kermit Carlson via arrl-odv wrote:

Hello John -

                THe manufacturer is Solar Edge,  I also believe that they are the OEM of the problematic optimizer circuit.  A re-designed version is in the supply chain and the problem that their system presents can be remedied - but with PV systems becoming a cottage industry (especially in California) we will need real-time input from the field to keep harmful interference problems in check.  The important take-home from the Solar Edge story, is that industry really worked well with the ARRL lab (Mike and Ed)  to solve the problem.

                 We are starting a cloning process in the lab, but we aren't supposed to tell anyone.

                Thanks for the kind words, I will pass your message along to the Committee.  See you in a few days !

                                      GUD DX es 73,

-  Kermit W9XA

On Thursday, July 12, 2018, 9:28:22 PM CDT, John Robert Stratton <N5AUS@n5aus.com> wrote:

Kermit

    Who is the solar products manufacturer discussed under "Solar PV Systems"?

    And — please — could we all agree to number the pages in our reports to make it easier to discuss them? T

    What plans do we have to clone Mike Gruber or find a suitable replacement?

    Kermit, thanks to you and the EMC Committee for the extensive work, by the way.

73

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John Robert Stratton

N5AUS

Vice Director

Legislative Director

West Gulf Division

Office:512-445-6262

Cell:512-426-2028

P.O. Box 2232

Austin, Texas 78768-2232

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On 7/12/18 9:09 PM, Kermit Carlson via arrl-odv wrote: Greetings,

Please find attached the July 2018 ARRL EMC Committee Report, Document #16.  The Report and Appendices are attached as two separate PDF files.  As always, please contact me directly with any suggested edits or corrections.

Respectfully Submitted,

73,   Kermit Carlson W9XA ARRL EMC Committee Chair ARRL Central Division Director

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Hello Bonnie and Tom,    Yes, the Laboratory did have a direct impact on the handling of interference issues experienced by the end user of that manufacturer'sdevice. It was probably not the sole reason for the redesign but theimportance of the EMC considerations were definitely amplified bydirect contact with the ARRL Lab staff.    I do need to check about the conditions that exists between thatmanufacturer and any possible NDA agreement that was establishedin order to facilitate  direct dialog with that manufacturer. Again, thebest resolution will arise when there is cooperation between the Leagueand manufacturers. This also points up the need for us to be directlyinvolved with the writing of industry EMC standards                                                73, Kermit On Friday, July 13, 2018, 1:43:35 AM CDT, Bonnie Altus <bonniealtus@onlinemac.com> wrote: Did the ARRL lab have influence on the re-designed version that is in the supply chain?    I was presenting at a club last week and I was asked about the Lab working with some manufacturers on devices that had interference problems.  I was asked about the prognosis of that actually being effective.  I told him I would do some checking and get back to him since I didn’t have a good answer on the spot.  I dropped Kermit’s name and the EMC Committee, along with the ARRL Lab in that conversation.   If the ARRL Lab did have some influence, is that something we can share specifically?   Bonnie AB7ZQ     From: arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> On Behalf Of Kermit Carlson via arrl-odv Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 7:38 PM To: arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org; Carlson Kermit <w9xa@arrl.org>; John Robert Stratton <N5AUS@n5aus.com> Subject: [arrl-odv:27351] Re: ARRL EMC Committee Meeting - DOCUMENT #16   Hello John -                   THe manufacturer is Solar Edge,  I also believe that they are the OEM of the problematic optimizer circuit.  A re-designed version is in the supply chain and the problem that their system presents can be remedied - but with PV systems becoming a cottage industry (especially in California) we will need real-time input from the field to keep harmful interference problems in check.  The important take-home from the Solar Edge story, is that industry really worked well with the ARRL lab (Mike and Ed)  to solve the problem.                    We are starting a cloning process in the lab, but we aren't supposed to tell anyone.                   Thanks for the kind words, I will pass your message along to the Committee.  See you in a few days !                                         GUD DX es 73,                                                           -  Kermit W9XA     On Thursday, July 12, 2018, 9:28:22 PM CDT, John Robert Stratton <N5AUS@n5aus.com> wrote:     Kermit     Who is the solar products manufacturer discussed under "Solar PV Systems"?     And — please — could we all agree to number the pages in our reports to make it easier to discuss them? T     What plans do we have to clone Mike Gruber or find a suitable replacement?     Kermit, thanks to you and the EMC Committee for the extensive work, by the way. 73 _______________________________________   John Robert Stratton N5AUS Vice Director Legislative Director West Gulf Division Office:             512-445-6262 Cell:                512-426-2028 P.O. Box 2232 Austin, Texas 78768-2232   _______________________________________       On 7/12/18 9:09 PM, Kermit Carlson via arrl-odv wrote: Greetings,               Please find attached the July 2018 ARRL EMC Committee Report, Document #16.  The Report and Appendices are attached as two separate PDF files.  As always, please contact me directly with any suggested edits or corrections.                           Respectfully Submitted,                                 73,   Kermit Carlson W9XA                                       ARRL EMC Committee Chair                                       ARRL Central Division Director   _______________________________________________arrl-odv mailing listarrl-odv@reflector.arrl.orghttps://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv   _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv