26 SEP, 2002 - 1510 CDT Hello Art... Rather than cross swords with K1MAN, an idiot who believes he is always right and the rest of the amateur world wrong... I suspect that most ARRL officers, directors, and staff members, etc., have simply set their email filters to trash anything that comes out of his mouth or would be posted on his IARN reflector. I have thought about filing a complaint with his ISP for unilaterally subscribing people to his reflector. That's a very big "NO NO" in the legitimate Internet world and he might just get kicked out if enough complaints of this nature were filed. 73 - Dick, W9GIG