[arrl-odv:24358] Re: FCC Docket 15-81, proposed deletion of historical license data from FCC ULS database

Good catch, Greg 73, Jim Sent from Jim's Samsung Galaxy Tab®4 -------- Original message -------- From: G Widin <gpwidin@comcast.net> Date:06/17/2015 6:51 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Christopher Imlay <w3kd.arrl@gmail.com> Cc: "Somma, Maria, AB1FM" <msomma@arrl.org>, arrl-odv <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:24357] Re: FCC Docket 15-81, proposed deletion of historical license data from FCC ULS database Chris, FYI, the authentication process for LoTW uses the current address of the applicant as a way of ensuring that the request has in fact come from the licensee and not someone purporting to be the licensee. I didn't find any mention of this in the Comments, though perhaps you intended to include LoTW under the discussion of obtaining licensee information for QSLing purposes. 73, Greg, K0GW On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Christopher Imlay <w3kd.arrl@gmail.com> wrote: Greetings. With the approval of the Executive Committee and with helpful edits provided by Dave Sumner, Kay Craigie, Tom Frenaye, Dale Williams, and especially Maria Somma, the attached comments were filed just now electronically. FCC proposed to delete historical license data (addresses basically) from its database, due to privacy concerns. It also asked for comment on the concept of eliminating current license data from the database as well. Fortunately, there is an FCC decision that is very close to being on point on the issue of privacy of licensee data as you will see from the discussion in the comments. We will report back on the thrust of other comments filed in the docket. There are only six comments filed at the moment (ARRL comments have not yet been logged) so this is not a momentous proceeding, but the due date is today. Let me know any questions you have. 73, Chris W3KD -- Christopher D. Imlay Booth, Freret & Imlay, LLC 14356 Cape May Road Silver Spring, Maryland 20904-6011 (301) 384-5525 telephone (301) 384-6384 facsimile W3KD@ARRL.ORG _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv

The trouble is that it is a late catch. I could file a modified version of these comments, but it would not redact the previously filed comments in the ECFS on the FCC web site and I would normally reserve that procedure for a major screwup in the filed comments. Since the issue of the need for current license data for purposes of QSLing is already listed as a valid purpose of radio amateurs, and since LoTW is a variation on that same theme, I wouldn't normally want to go through the process. Frankly, there is ample justification otherwise for retaining current license data in the ULS and its use for LoTW is not going to be at all determinative, I would prefer to leave well enough alone, unless you folks feel differently. 73, Chris W3KD On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:53 AM, nwdvd <nwdvd@comcast.net> wrote:
Good catch, Greg
73, Jim
Sent from Jim's Samsung Galaxy Tab®4
-------- Original message -------- From: G Widin <gpwidin@comcast.net> Date:06/17/2015 6:51 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Christopher Imlay <w3kd.arrl@gmail.com> Cc: "Somma, Maria, AB1FM" <msomma@arrl.org>, arrl-odv <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:24357] Re: FCC Docket 15-81, proposed deletion of historical license data from FCC ULS database
Chris, FYI, the authentication process for LoTW uses the current address of the applicant as a way of ensuring that the request has in fact come from the licensee and not someone purporting to be the licensee. I didn't find any mention of this in the Comments, though perhaps you intended to include LoTW under the discussion of obtaining licensee information for QSLing purposes. 73, Greg, K0GW
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Christopher Imlay <w3kd.arrl@gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings. With the approval of the Executive Committee and with helpful edits provided by Dave Sumner, Kay Craigie, Tom Frenaye, Dale Williams, and especially Maria Somma, the attached comments were filed just now electronically.
FCC proposed to delete historical license data (addresses basically) from its database, due to privacy concerns. It also asked for comment on the concept of eliminating current license data from the database as well.
Fortunately, there is an FCC decision that is very close to being on point on the issue of privacy of licensee data as you will see from the discussion in the comments.
We will report back on the thrust of other comments filed in the docket. There are only six comments filed at the moment (ARRL comments have not yet been logged) so this is not a momentous proceeding, but the due date is today.
Let me know any questions you have.
73, Chris W3KD
-- Christopher D. Imlay Booth, Freret & Imlay, LLC 14356 Cape May Road Silver Spring, Maryland 20904-6011 (301) 384-5525 telephone (301) 384-6384 facsimile W3KD@ARRL.ORG
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Well, it couldn't have been anything but a late catch, since it was posted after it was already filed. ;-) I agree that it is not important enough to file a modified version. I just thought you ought to know about this, in case there is further dialog. 73, Greg, K0GW On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Christopher Imlay <w3kd.arrl@gmail.com> wrote:
The trouble is that it is a late catch. I could file a modified version of these comments, but it would not redact the previously filed comments in the ECFS on the FCC web site and I would normally reserve that procedure for a major screwup in the filed comments. Since the issue of the need for current license data for purposes of QSLing is already listed as a valid purpose of radio amateurs, and since LoTW is a variation on that same theme, I wouldn't normally want to go through the process. Frankly, there is ample justification otherwise for retaining current license data in the ULS and its use for LoTW is not going to be at all determinative, I would prefer to leave well enough alone, unless you folks feel differently.
73, Chris W3KD
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:53 AM, nwdvd <nwdvd@comcast.net> wrote:
Good catch, Greg
73, Jim
Sent from Jim's Samsung Galaxy Tab®4
-------- Original message -------- From: G Widin <gpwidin@comcast.net> Date:06/17/2015 6:51 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Christopher Imlay <w3kd.arrl@gmail.com> Cc: "Somma, Maria, AB1FM" <msomma@arrl.org>, arrl-odv <arrl-odv@arrl.org>
Subject: [arrl-odv:24357] Re: FCC Docket 15-81, proposed deletion of historical license data from FCC ULS database
Chris, FYI, the authentication process for LoTW uses the current address of the applicant as a way of ensuring that the request has in fact come from the licensee and not someone purporting to be the licensee. I didn't find any mention of this in the Comments, though perhaps you intended to include LoTW under the discussion of obtaining licensee information for QSLing purposes. 73, Greg, K0GW
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Christopher Imlay <w3kd.arrl@gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings. With the approval of the Executive Committee and with helpful edits provided by Dave Sumner, Kay Craigie, Tom Frenaye, Dale Williams, and especially Maria Somma, the attached comments were filed just now electronically.
FCC proposed to delete historical license data (addresses basically) from its database, due to privacy concerns. It also asked for comment on the concept of eliminating current license data from the database as well.
Fortunately, there is an FCC decision that is very close to being on point on the issue of privacy of licensee data as you will see from the discussion in the comments.
We will report back on the thrust of other comments filed in the docket. There are only six comments filed at the moment (ARRL comments have not yet been logged) so this is not a momentous proceeding, but the due date is today.
Let me know any questions you have.
73, Chris W3KD
-- Christopher D. Imlay Booth, Freret & Imlay, LLC 14356 Cape May Road Silver Spring, Maryland 20904-6011 (301) 384-5525 telephone (301) 384-6384 facsimile W3KD@ARRL.ORG
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