[arrl-odv:18888] Re: Web Site-- Special Service Clubs???

Jim, I believe the issue you noted was an issue on the old site as well. In looking at the club listings, I noticed that no matter what search "method" I used, there was no special prominence given to Special Service Clubs. If we believe that there is value to the SSC category, then we should "reward" those clubs by promoting them--that is, listing them preferentially in any search or display. Also, if someone is seeking a club, the SSC stands the best chance of meeting their needs, so it makes sense to list them first--kind of like Google sponsored search items. Also, there should be some sort of link that leads to a definition of a SSC so the searcher can decide if this is important. I well realize that this is a new capability, so I wouldn't expect it to be possible in the near future, but I think it only makes sense, and if there are fixes that need to be made to the club display anyway for the new web site, it might be a good time to put this feature in. I just took a look at the club listings, and as far as I can see, no mention is made of Special Service Clubs at all. Has it been decided that we won't show that as part of the club listing, or is this just part of the growing pains of porting old site info to the new site? -- 73, Greg, KØGW Director, Dakota Division ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Weaver K8JE" <K8JE@ARRL.org> To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:10:59 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [arrl-odv:18883] Web Site Help! I have just finished a rather frustrating 30 minutes on the new web site. I was trying to learn which Special Service Clubs are within selected distances from a postal ZIP code. What I was able to learn was which Affiliated clubs are within proximities to the ZIPs, who the primary officers are and the chief interests of the clubs. What I could not determine from the club listing was if they are SSC or where they are located. Is this latter information found in a separate page on the site? For that matter, why wouldn't we want anyone who looks up information on a club to know if it is a SSC and where it meets, etc.? I must admit at this moment that I'd be happy to have the old club page and listing available to use. The reason for my search relates to appointments I was ready to make, and to suggest how the pending appointee should proceed relative to other appointments. I admit that I could be missing something about the new site and will welcome being straightened out. Similar to Dick, this most immediate project of mine is at a standstill. And, no, Dave. I do not want you to take the time to look information up for me. Your time is too valuable for you to use it to play clerk. I believe we all appreciate your desire to assist in any way possible, though. I realize the new site represents a huge project and that minor issues with it will be detected as time goes on; however . . . with the continuing less than minor issues GLD SMs are reporting to me me (and me forwarding to HQ), issues members are reporting and those we directors have encountered, I'm becoming less comfortable with having the site introduced now instead of holding off on the introduction for another week or two until we at least believed it was right fully functional. Of course, this is no longer an option so we meed to goi forward from here. Jim Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director ARRL Great Lakes Division 5065 Bethany Rd. Mason, OH 45040; Tel. 513-459-1661 ARRL, The national organization for AMATEUR RADIO

Greg, You may be correct. Somehow I always learned if a club was SSC, though. I certainly agree that if this designation is worth the paper its printed on, we ought to have it displayed in the club roster. What is not available in the new presentation of club information that was available on the old page is club meeting, newsletter and additional information. Why it was not transferred or forwarded to the new site is a question. I found the information useful on occasion. CU, Jim Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director ARRL Great Lakes Division 5065 Bethany Rd. Mason, OH 45040; Tel. 513-459-1661 ARRL, The national organization for AMATEUR RADIO _____ From: G.P. Widin [mailto:gpwidin@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 4:53 AM To: Jim Weaver K8JE Cc: arrl-odv Subject: Re: [arrl-odv:18883] Web Site-- Special Service Clubs??? Jim, I believe the issue you noted was an issue on the old site as well. In looking at the club listings, I noticed that no matter what search "method" I used, there was no special prominence given to Special Service Clubs. If we believe that there is value to the SSC category, then we should "reward" those clubs by promoting them--that is, listing them preferentially in any search or display. Also, if someone is seeking a club, the SSC stands the best chance of meeting their needs, so it makes sense to list them first--kind of like Google sponsored search items. Also, there should be some sort of link that leads to a definition of a SSC so the searcher can decide if this is important. I well realize that this is a new capability, so I wouldn't expect it to be possible in the near future, but I think it only makes sense, and if there are fixes that need to be made to the club display anyway for the new web site, it might be a good time to put this feature in. I just took a look at the club listings, and as far as I can see, no mention is made of Special Service Clubs at all. Has it been decided that we won't show that as part of the club listing, or is this just part of the growing pains of porting old site info to the new site? -- 73, Greg, KØGW Director, Dakota Division ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Weaver K8JE" <K8JE@ARRL.org> To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:10:59 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [arrl-odv:18883] Web Site Help! I have just finished a rather frustrating 30 minutes on the new web site. I was trying to learn which Special Service Clubs are within selected distances from a postal ZIP code. What I was able to learn was which Affiliated clubs are within proximities to the ZIPs, who the primary officers are and the chief interests of the clubs. What I could not determine from the club listing was if they are SSC or where they are located. Is this latter information found in a separate page on the site? For that matter, why wouldn't we want anyone who looks up information on a club to know if it is a SSC and where it meets, etc.? I must admit at this moment that I'd be happy to have the old club page and listing available to use. The reason for my search relates to appointments I was ready to make, and to suggest how the pending appointee should proceed relative to other appointments. I admit that I could be missing something about the new site and will welcome being straightened out. Similar to Dick, this most immediate project of mine is at a standstill. And, no, Dave. I do not want you to take the time to look information up for me. Your time is too valuable for you to use it to play clerk. I believe we all appreciate your desire to assist in any way possible, though. I realize the new site represents a huge project and that minor issues with it will be detected as time goes on; however . . . with the continuing less than minor issues GLD SMs are reporting to me me (and me forwarding to HQ), issues members are reporting and those we directors have encountered, I'm becoming less comfortable with having the site introduced now instead of holding off on the introduction for another week or two until we at least believed it was right fully functional. Of course, this is no longer an option so we meed to goi forward from here. Jim Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director ARRL Great Lakes Division 5065 Bethany Rd. Mason, OH 45040; Tel. 513-459-1661 ARRL, The national organization for AMATEUR RADIO No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2811 - Release Date: 04/14/10 11:31:00
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