[arrl-odv:29746] Vice Directors at Thursday committee meetings ??
Folks, I just got the A&F Committee minutes from January. I haven't digested them yet, but I couldn't help but notice that there were 5 Vice Directors listed as being in attendance. I spent some time Thursday afternoon at the PS meeting, and there were several Vice Directors there as well. You all know that I have a soft spot in my heart for Vice Directors. In the past it has been the practice that Vice Directors didn't get reimbursed for Thursday expenses, which in most cases would entail one more night of hotel expense plus Wednesday dinner (sumptuous Thursday munchies are already supplied.) But clearly the Vice Directors are participating in a very real way at these Thursday committee meetings. Perhaps it is time to acknowledge this and pick up the tab for Wednesday night for Vice Directors. Is this something that can by declaration, or does it need a motion? Rick, I think you could do this by decree. What do folks think. Figure the cost as $150 * 13 (with a VD on A&F and a VD on PS we are typically already paying for 2 of them), or $1950. 73,MikeK1TWF Mike Raisbeck k1twf@arrl.net
Mike, There is at least one more cost factor to consider and that is the committee meetings could no longer be held at HQ. Our two meeting space cannot accommodate an additional 15 people. We therefore would need to obtain additional space at the hotel along with a lunch provided by the hotel. I would be happy to look into the pricing for this if the A&F committee would like to discuss it at their meeting in April. I would also like to point out that there was an unusually large number of Vice Directors in Newington this past January due to orientation and the request for others to attend the harassment training. 73, Diane Middleton, W2DLM Chief Financial Officer ARRL, the national association for Amateur Radio ® 225 Main Street Newington, CT 06111 (860) 594-0225 From: arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> On Behalf Of Mike Raisbeck via arrl-odv Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 11:43 AM To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:29746] Vice Directors at Thursday committee meetings ?? Folks, I just got the A&F Committee minutes from January. I haven't digested them yet, but I couldn't help but notice that there were 5 Vice Directors listed as being in attendance. I spent some time Thursday afternoon at the PS meeting, and there were several Vice Directors there as well. You all know that I have a soft spot in my heart for Vice Directors. In the past it has been the practice that Vice Directors didn't get reimbursed for Thursday expenses, which in most cases would entail one more night of hotel expense plus Wednesday dinner (sumptuous Thursday munchies are already supplied.) But clearly the Vice Directors are participating in a very real way at these Thursday committee meetings. Perhaps it is time to acknowledge this and pick up the tab for Wednesday night for Vice Directors. Is this something that can by declaration, or does it need a motion? Rick, I think you could do this by decree. What do folks think. Figure the cost as $150 * 13 (with a VD on A&F and a VD on PS we are typically already paying for 2 of them), or $1950. 73, Mike K1TWF Mike Raisbeck k1twf@arrl.net<mailto:k1twf@arrl.net>
I think this would be good to look into. Bill (W2UDT) started attending committee meetings (he had told me he was not allowed to previously, by my predecessor?) it’s good because we can then compare notes. I appreciate the extra ears as I can’t be in both meetings as members ask me about both (and EC stuff)... and frankly I just like to be informed as much as possible so I know what I’m voting on. Ria N2RJ On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 11:53 AM Middleton, Diane, W2DLM (CFO) < dmiddleton@arrl.org> wrote:
Mike,
There is at least one more cost factor to consider and that is the committee meetings could no longer be held at HQ. Our two meeting space cannot accommodate an additional 15 people. We therefore would need to obtain additional space at the hotel along with a lunch provided by the hotel. I would be happy to look into the pricing for this if the A&F committee would like to discuss it at their meeting in April.
I would also like to point out that there was an unusually large number of Vice Directors in Newington this past January due to orientation and the request for others to attend the harassment training.
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Folks,
I just got the A&F Committee minutes from January. I haven't digested them yet, but I couldn't help but notice that there were 5 Vice Directors listed as being in attendance. I spent some time Thursday afternoon at the PS meeting, and there were several Vice Directors there as well.
You all know that I have a soft spot in my heart for Vice Directors. In the past it has been the practice that Vice Directors didn't get reimbursed for Thursday expenses, which in most cases would entail one more night of hotel expense plus Wednesday dinner (sumptuous Thursday munchies are already supplied.) But clearly the Vice Directors are participating in a very real way at these Thursday committee meetings. Perhaps it is time to acknowledge this and pick up the tab for Wednesday night for Vice Directors.
Is this something that can by declaration, or does it need a motion? Rick, I think you could do this by decree.
What do folks think. Figure the cost as $150 * 13 (with a VD on A&F and a VD on PS we are typically already paying for 2 of them), or $1950.
73,
Mike
K1TWF
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Hi Diane, I would disagree with you on the space. Perhaps partly for the reason you suggest, there must have been 10 VD's attending this January, and there was still space for a few more chairs in both meeting venues. And we aren't talking 15 additional people. Typically there 2 already on the committees. I and several other VD's are almost always there. I think the change in number of people would be perhaps 5 or 6. 73,MikeK1TWF Mike Raisbeck k1twf@arrl.net -----Original Message----- From: Middleton, Diane, W2DLM (CFO) <dmiddleton@arrl.org> To: Mike Raisbeck <vze18vwgu@verizon.net>; arrl-odv <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Sent: Thu, Feb 27, 2020 11:53 am Subject: [arrl-odv:29748] Re: Vice Directors at Thursday committee meetings ?? #yiv7092562067 #yiv7092562067 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} #yiv7092562067 #yiv7092562067 p.yiv7092562067MsoNormal, #yiv7092562067 li.yiv7092562067MsoNormal, #yiv7092562067 div.yiv7092562067MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;} #yiv7092562067 a:link, #yiv7092562067 span.yiv7092562067MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv7092562067 a:visited, #yiv7092562067 span.yiv7092562067MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv7092562067 p.yiv7092562067msonormal0, #yiv7092562067 li.yiv7092562067msonormal0, #yiv7092562067 div.yiv7092562067msonormal0 {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;} #yiv7092562067 span.yiv7092562067EmailStyle18 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;} #yiv7092562067 .yiv7092562067MsoChpDefault {font-family:sans-serif;} _filtered {} #yiv7092562067 div.yiv7092562067WordSection1 {} #yiv7092562067 Mike, There is at least one more cost factor to consider and that is the committee meetings could no longer be held at HQ. Our two meeting space cannot accommodate an additional 15 people. We therefore would need to obtain additional space at the hotel along with a lunch provided by the hotel. I would be happy to look into the pricing for this if the A&F committee would like to discuss it at their meeting in April. I would also like to point out that there was an unusually large number of Vice Directors in Newington this past January due to orientation and the request for others to attend the harassment training. 73, Diane Middleton, W2DLM Chief Financial Officer ARRL, the national association for Amateur Radio ® 225 Main Street Newington, CT 06111 (860) 594-0225 From: arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> On Behalf Of Mike Raisbeck via arrl-odv Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 11:43 AM To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:29746] Vice Directors at Thursday committee meetings ?? Folks, I just got the A&F Committee minutes from January. I haven't digested them yet, but I couldn't help but notice that there were 5 Vice Directors listed as being in attendance. I spent some time Thursday afternoon at the PS meeting, and there were several Vice Directors there as well. You all know that I have a soft spot in my heart for Vice Directors. In the past it has been the practice that Vice Directors didn't get reimbursed for Thursday expenses, which in most cases would entail one more night of hotel expense plus Wednesday dinner (sumptuous Thursday munchies are already supplied.) But clearly the Vice Directors are participating in a very real way at these Thursday committee meetings. Perhaps it is time to acknowledge this and pick up the tab for Wednesday night for Vice Directors. Is this something that can by declaration, or does it need a motion? Rick, I think you could do this by decree. What do folks think. Figure the cost as $150 * 13 (with a VD on A&F and a VD on PS we are typically already paying for 2 of them), or $1950. 73, Mike K1TWF Mike Raisbeck k1twf@arrl.net _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv
Mike: I think we can agree to disagree on this one as it’s my opinion that having enough seats and accommodating everyone comfortably for a well-run meeting, are two separate matters. And I’ve always found the meeting room over W1AW to be uncomfortable no matter how many people were in it. I’m not going to opine on the merits of having Vice Directors attend as observers at Committee meetings. I see that as a lose-lose proposition. 😊 But whatever the Board (or the President) decides, I would suggest that it is a staff function to make the appropriate arrangements. 73, Barry, N1VXY From: arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> On Behalf Of Mike Raisbeck via arrl-odv Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 12:14 PM To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:29751] Re: Vice Directors at Thursday committee meetings ?? Hi Diane, I would disagree with you on the space. Perhaps partly for the reason you suggest, there must have been 10 VD's attending this January, and there was still space for a few more chairs in both meeting venues. And we aren't talking 15 additional people. Typically there 2 already on the committees. I and several other VD's are almost always there. I think the change in number of people would be perhaps 5 or 6. 73, Mike K1TWF Mike Raisbeck k1twf@arrl.net<mailto:k1twf@arrl.net> -----Original Message----- From: Middleton, Diane, W2DLM (CFO) <dmiddleton@arrl.org<mailto:dmiddleton@arrl.org>> To: Mike Raisbeck <vze18vwgu@verizon.net<mailto:vze18vwgu@verizon.net>>; arrl-odv <arrl-odv@arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv@arrl.org>> Sent: Thu, Feb 27, 2020 11:53 am Subject: [arrl-odv:29748] Re: Vice Directors at Thursday committee meetings ?? Mike, There is at least one more cost factor to consider and that is the committee meetings could no longer be held at HQ. Our two meeting space cannot accommodate an additional 15 people. We therefore would need to obtain additional space at the hotel along with a lunch provided by the hotel. I would be happy to look into the pricing for this if the A&F committee would like to discuss it at their meeting in April. I would also like to point out that there was an unusually large number of Vice Directors in Newington this past January due to orientation and the request for others to attend the harassment training. 73, Diane Middleton, W2DLM Chief Financial Officer ARRL, the national association for Amateur Radio ® 225 Main Street Newington, CT 06111 (860) 594-0225 From: arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org>> On Behalf Of Mike Raisbeck via arrl-odv Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 11:43 AM To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv@arrl.org>> Subject: [arrl-odv:29746] Vice Directors at Thursday committee meetings ?? Folks, I just got the A&F Committee minutes from January. I haven't digested them yet, but I couldn't help but notice that there were 5 Vice Directors listed as being in attendance. I spent some time Thursday afternoon at the PS meeting, and there were several Vice Directors there as well. You all know that I have a soft spot in my heart for Vice Directors. In the past it has been the practice that Vice Directors didn't get reimbursed for Thursday expenses, which in most cases would entail one more night of hotel expense plus Wednesday dinner (sumptuous Thursday munchies are already supplied.) But clearly the Vice Directors are participating in a very real way at these Thursday committee meetings. Perhaps it is time to acknowledge this and pick up the tab for Wednesday night for Vice Directors. Is this something that can by declaration, or does it need a motion? Rick, I think you could do this by decree. What do folks think. Figure the cost as $150 * 13 (with a VD on A&F and a VD on PS we are typically already paying for 2 of them), or $1950. 73, Mike K1TWF Mike Raisbeck k1twf@arrl.net<mailto:k1twf@arrl.net> _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv
I think this is a good use of funds. We have turnover in the ranks regularly and it is good to have experienced VDs in the queue to be able to step up, as well as using the talents of these people who are elected leaders, trusted by members. Mickey Baker, N4MB Palm Beach Gardens, FL *“The servant-leader is servant first… It begins with the natural feeling that one wants to serve, to serve first. Then conscious choice brings one to aspire to lead." Robert K. Greenleaf* On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 11:43 AM Mike Raisbeck via arrl-odv < arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> wrote:
Folks,
I just got the A&F Committee minutes from January. I haven't digested them yet, but I couldn't help but notice that there were 5 Vice Directors listed as being in attendance. I spent some time Thursday afternoon at the PS meeting, and there were several Vice Directors there as well.
You all know that I have a soft spot in my heart for Vice Directors. In the past it has been the practice that Vice Directors didn't get reimbursed for Thursday expenses, which in most cases would entail one more night of hotel expense plus Wednesday dinner (sumptuous Thursday munchies are already supplied.) But clearly the Vice Directors are participating in a very real way at these Thursday committee meetings. Perhaps it is time to acknowledge this and pick up the tab for Wednesday night for Vice Directors.
Is this something that can by declaration, or does it need a motion? Rick, I think you could do this by decree.
What do folks think. Figure the cost as $150 * 13 (with a VD on A&F and a VD on PS we are typically already paying for 2 of them), or $1950.
73, Mike K1TWF
Mike Raisbeck k1twf@arrl.net _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv
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Mickey Baker -
Middleton, Diane, W2DLM (CFO) -
Mike Raisbeck -
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Shelley, Barry, N1VXY (CEO)