Jim F., Now, them's fightin' words, friend! I definitely feel you have greatly besmirched the hallowed name of Purdue by indicating your Euchre-related issues ended when you changed over (pardon me for swearing) "to that school south of Indianapolis." Looks as though I'll have to make my try at recalling the game a "definite." Jim Weaver Tuck Count me in for certain. Jim Weaver k8je@arrl.org