I had never thought of a person's spectrum usage habits as a sort of zero-sum game, as in "how you gonna keep 'em down on the farm, after they've seen Paree?" It's a thought-provoking idea, isn't it? Good point, Tom. If we really want VHF+ to be occupied, so we can hold onto that spectrum, it looks like we should be coming up with some compelling reasons to operate there, to replace "because you can't operate anywhere else." 73 - Kay N3KN