Me too......that's why I, unlike the ole fart, like a REAL entry level license like the Novice license suited for today. I would suggest he return to the days of yesteryear like I do...by sitting down in front of my 75A4 and DX60 on occasion and operate 40 mtr CW. Its good therapy !!!! 73 W5ZN -----Original Message----- From: walstrom@mchsi.com [mailto:walstrom@mchsi.com] Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 2:17 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:11071] Re: Fwd: FCC It was pretty obvious JJ prefers "returning to the days of yesteryear..." in his WR comments. It was certainly obvious who he was after. How old is he anyway? 73, Wade W0EJ