[arrl-odv:31035] FCC 3.4 GHz Proceeding Update

ODV: A quick update on the 3.4 GHz proceeding. Next Wednesday the Commission will meet and take final action, with the written decision being issued soon thereafter – usually within a week. On Monday I met (by telephone) with the FCC team staffing this decision. Yesterday I followed up with three of the Commissioners’ Legal Advisors who are reviewing the draft decision and will work out any changes that the Commissioners feel should be made. (And we hope that amateur secondary access is one of the changes that they will consider.) Our main focus was to emphasize the benefits that derive from amateur use of this spectrum and to put forward the reasons that continued shared use should be permitted. From the discussion it became apparent that one reason they felt amateurs should be treated differently than experimental licensees – who also operate on a non-interference basis in this spectrum – is staff concern that amateur 3.4 GHz operations are not clearly identified and therefore would be hard to find if interference occurs or coordination with the primary user needed to prevent interference. After quite a bit of discussion, I referred them to 97.303(g) as an existing amateur rule that could be used to guide a notification requirement, if they felt one is needed, and the follow-up discussion indicated that this new information and helpful, and would be given serious consideration. The discussions with each of the Commissioners’ legal advisors went well, but were more general in nature. In this regard, the Amateur Television Network filed an effective email with Commissioners that included a letter from the California Governor’s Office of Emergency Services (CALoes) describing the radio amateur contributions and specifically calling out the need for 3 GHz and why other bands are not sufficient. Finally, please note that the proceeding is now closed. Do not solicit any contact with the FCC – all contact on these matters is prohibited from now until a final Report and Order / Further Notice of Proposed Rulemaking is released, and anyone inquiring should be told this. There can be no calls, emails, or filings at the FCC with regard to the issues under consideration. Please make this clear to anyone who may contact you about submitting comments. The publicly-filed accounts of the meetings described above are at these links: ARRL: 9/23 Meetings with FCC Commissioner Legal Advisors 3.4 GHz Proceeding<https://tinyurl.com/yyklqyap> ARRL: 9/21 Meeting with FCC Staff Team 3.4 GHz Proceeding<https://tinyurl.com/y34vodk9> The communication from ATN is here: ATN Email FCC Ex Parte 9/23<https://tinyurl.com/y4k8ncx5> Please feel free to let me know of any comments. 73, Dave K3ZJ David R. Siddall Managing Partner DS Law, PLLC 1629 K St. NW, Ste 300 Washington, DC 20006 direct: +1 202 559 4690 Unauthorized Disclosure Prohibited. This e-mail is intended solely for the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, it is prohibited to disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email and its attachments. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all electronic and physical copies of the e-mail message and its attachments. Unintended transmission shall not constitute waiver of attorney-client or any other privilege. Thank you.

Thanks Dave. Mark, HDX On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 7:54 PM david davidsiddall-law.com < david@davidsiddall-law.com> wrote:
ODV:
A quick update on the 3.4 GHz proceeding. Next Wednesday the Commission will meet and take final action, with the written decision being issued soon thereafter – usually within a week.
On Monday I met (by telephone) with the FCC team staffing this decision. Yesterday I followed up with three of the Commissioners’ Legal Advisors who are reviewing the draft decision and will work out any changes that the Commissioners feel should be made. (And we hope that amateur secondary access is one of the changes that they will consider.)
Our main focus was to emphasize the benefits that derive from amateur use of this spectrum and to put forward the reasons that continued shared use should be permitted. From the discussion it became apparent that one reason they felt amateurs should be treated differently than experimental licensees – who also operate on a non-interference basis in this spectrum – is staff concern that amateur 3.4 GHz operations are not clearly identified and therefore would be hard to find if interference occurs or coordination with the primary user needed to prevent interference. After quite a bit of discussion, I referred them to 97.303(g) as an existing amateur rule that could be used to guide a notification requirement, if they felt one is needed, and the follow-up discussion indicated that this new information and helpful, and would be given serious consideration.
The discussions with each of the Commissioners’ legal advisors went well, but were more general in nature. In this regard, the Amateur Television Network filed an effective email with Commissioners that included a letter from the California Governor’s Office of Emergency Services (CALoes) describing the radio amateur contributions and specifically calling out the need for 3 GHz and why other bands are not sufficient.
*Finally, please note that the proceeding is now closed.* Do not solicit any contact with the FCC – all contact on these matters is prohibited from now until a final Report and Order / Further Notice of Proposed Rulemaking is released, and anyone inquiring should be told this. There can be no calls, emails, or filings at the FCC with regard to the issues under consideration. Please make this clear to anyone who may contact you about submitting comments.
The publicly-filed accounts of the meetings described above are at these links:
ARRL: 9/23 Meetings with FCC Commissioner Legal Advisors 3.4 GHz Proceeding <https://tinyurl.com/yyklqyap>
ARRL: 9/21 Meeting with FCC Staff Team 3.4 GHz Proceeding <https://tinyurl.com/y34vodk9>
The communication from ATN is here:
ATN Email FCC Ex Parte 9/23 <https://tinyurl.com/y4k8ncx5>
Please feel free to let me know of any comments.
73, Dave K3ZJ
*David R. Siddall*
*Managing Partner*
*DS Law, PLLC*
*1629 K St. NW, Ste 300*
*Washington, DC 20006*
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Thank you I am cautiously optimistic. 73 Ria N2RJ On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 10:54 PM david davidsiddall-law.com < david@davidsiddall-law.com> wrote:
ODV:
A quick update on the 3.4 GHz proceeding. Next Wednesday the Commission will meet and take final action, with the written decision being issued soon thereafter – usually within a week.
On Monday I met (by telephone) with the FCC team staffing this decision. Yesterday I followed up with three of the Commissioners’ Legal Advisors who are reviewing the draft decision and will work out any
changes that the Commissioners feel should be made. (And we hope that amateur secondary access is one of the changes that they will consider.)
Our main focus was to emphasize the benefits that derive from amateur use of this spectrum and to put forward the reasons that continued shared use should be permitted. From the discussion it became apparent
that one reason they felt amateurs should be treated differently than experimental licensees – who also operate on a non-interference basis in this spectrum – is staff concern that amateur 3.4 GHz operations are not clearly identified and therefore would be
hard to find if interference occurs or coordination with the primary user needed to prevent interference. After quite a bit of discussion, I referred them to 97.303(g) as an existing amateur rule that could be used to guide a notification requirement, if
they felt one is needed, and the follow-up discussion indicated that this new information and helpful, and would be given serious consideration.
The discussions with each of the Commissioners’ legal advisors went well, but were more general in nature. In this regard, the Amateur Television Network filed an effective email with Commissioners that included
a letter from the California Governor’s Office of Emergency Services (CALoes) describing the radio amateur contributions and specifically calling out the need for 3 GHz and why other bands are not sufficient.
*Finally, please note that the proceeding is now closed.* Do not solicit any contact with the FCC – all contact on these matters is prohibited
from now until a final Report and Order / Further Notice of Proposed Rulemaking is released, and anyone inquiring should be told this. There can be no calls, emails, or filings at the FCC with regard to the issues under
consideration. Please make this clear to anyone who may contact you about submitting comments.
The publicly-filed accounts of the meetings described above are at these links:
ARRL: 9/23 Meetings with FCC Commissioner Legal Advisors 3.4 GHz Proceeding <https://tinyurl.com/yyklqyap>
ARRL: 9/21 Meeting with FCC Staff Team 3.4 GHz Proceeding <https://tinyurl.com/y34vodk9>
The communication from ATN is here:
ATN Email FCC Ex Parte 9/23 <https://tinyurl.com/y4k8ncx5>
Please feel free to let me know of any comments.
73, Dave K3ZJ
*David R. Siddall*
*Managing Partner*
*DS Law, PLLC*
*1629 K St. NW, Ste 300 <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1629+K+St.+NW,+Ste+300+%0D%0A+Washington,+DC+20006?entry=gmail&source=g>*
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David, to what extent can we tell members what you've said below or should we refer them to the two public links? It might be good to have an article about the two meetings to show our members the action we've taken and reference the two public links of your letters. Rick -----Original Message----- From: david davidsiddall-law. com <david@davidsiddall-law.com> To: arrl-odv@arrl.org <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Sent: Thu, Sep 24, 2020 9:54 pm Subject: [arrl-odv:31035] FCC 3.4 GHz Proceeding Update <!--#yiv1313802610 _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv1313802610 #yiv1313802610 p.yiv1313802610MsoNormal, #yiv1313802610 li.yiv1313802610MsoNormal, #yiv1313802610 div.yiv1313802610MsoNormal {margin:0in;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}#yiv1313802610 a:link, #yiv1313802610 span.yiv1313802610MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1313802610 span.yiv1313802610EmailStyle17 {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv1313802610 .yiv1313802610MsoChpDefault {font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;} _filtered {}#yiv1313802610 div.yiv1313802610WordSection1 {}-->ODV: A quick update on the 3.4 GHz proceeding. Next Wednesday the Commission will meet and take final action, with the written decision being issued soon thereafter – usually within a week. On Monday I met (by telephone) with the FCC team staffing this decision. Yesterday I followed up with three of the Commissioners’ Legal Advisors who are reviewing the draft decision and will work out any changes that the Commissioners feel should be made. (And we hope that amateur secondary access is one of the changes that they will consider.) Our main focus was to emphasize the benefits that derive from amateur use of this spectrum and to put forward the reasons that continued shared use should be permitted. From the discussion it became apparent that one reason they felt amateurs should be treated differently than experimental licensees – who also operate on a non-interference basis in this spectrum – is staff concern that amateur 3.4 GHz operations are not clearly identified and therefore would be hard to find if interference occurs or coordination with the primary user needed to prevent interference. After quite a bit of discussion, I referred them to 97.303(g) as an existing amateur rule that could be used to guide a notification requirement, if they felt one is needed, and the follow-up discussion indicated that this new information and helpful, and would be given serious consideration. The discussions with each of the Commissioners’ legal advisors went well, but were more general in nature. In this regard, the Amateur Television Network filed an effective email with Commissioners that included a letter from the California Governor’s Office of Emergency Services (CALoes) describing the radio amateur contributions and specifically calling out the need for 3 GHz and why other bands are not sufficient. Finally, please note that the proceeding is now closed. Do not solicit any contact with the FCC – all contact on these matters is prohibitedfrom now until a final Report and Order / Further Notice of Proposed Rulemaking is released, and anyone inquiring should be told this. There can be no calls, emails, or filings at the FCC with regard to the issues under consideration. Please make this clear to anyone who may contact you about submitting comments. The publicly-filed accounts of the meetings described above are at these links: ARRL: 9/23 Meetings with FCC Commissioner Legal Advisors 3.4 GHz Proceeding ARRL: 9/21 Meeting with FCC Staff Team 3.4 GHz Proceeding The communication from ATN is here: ATN Email FCC Ex Parte 9/23 Please feel free to let me know of any comments. 73, Dave K3ZJ David R. Siddall Managing Partner DS Law, PLLC 1629 K St. NW, Ste 300 Washington, DC 20006 direct: +1 202 559 4690 Unauthorized Disclosure Prohibited. This e-mail is intended solely for the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, it is prohibited to disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email and its attachments. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all electronic and physical copies of the e-mail message and its attachments. Unintended transmission shall not constitute waiver of attorney-client or any other privilege. Thank you. _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv

No problem from my perspective, so long as any article is clear that no one should be submitting anything in the record or otherwise contacting the FCC. The “sunshine” no contact provision is one of the few deadlines that the Commission takes very seriously. Also, keep in mind that next Wednesday there will be the bigger news – what the FCC decides (to the extent that it can be deciphered from public information before release of the text). From: "k5ur@aol.com" <k5ur@aol.com> Reply-To: "k5ur@aol.com" <k5ur@aol.com> Date: Friday, September 25, 2020 at 11:16 AM To: "david@davidsiddall-law.com" <david@davidsiddall-law.com>, "arrl-odv@arrl.org" <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Subject: Re: [arrl-odv:31035] FCC 3.4 GHz Proceeding Update David, to what extent can we tell members what you've said below or should we refer them to the two public links? It might be good to have an article about the two meetings to show our members the action we've taken and reference the two public links of your letters. Rick -----Original Message----- From: david davidsiddall-law. com <david@davidsiddall-law.com> To: arrl-odv@arrl.org <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Sent: Thu, Sep 24, 2020 9:54 pm Subject: [arrl-odv:31035] FCC 3.4 GHz Proceeding Update ODV: A quick update on the 3.4 GHz proceeding. Next Wednesday the Commission will meet and take final action, with the written decision being issued soon thereafter – usually within a week. On Monday I met (by telephone) with the FCC team staffing this decision. Yesterday I followed up with three of the Commissioners’ Legal Advisors who are reviewing the draft decision and will work out any changes that the Commissioners feel should be made. (And we hope that amateur secondary access is one of the changes that they will consider.) Our main focus was to emphasize the benefits that derive from amateur use of this spectrum and to put forward the reasons that continued shared use should be permitted. From the discussion it became apparent that one reason they felt amateurs should be treated differently than experimental licensees – who also operate on a non-interference basis in this spectrum – is staff concern that amateur 3.4 GHz operations are not clearly identified and therefore would be hard to find if interference occurs or coordination with the primary user needed to prevent interference. After quite a bit of discussion, I referred them to 97.303(g) as an existing amateur rule that could be used to guide a notification requirement, if they felt one is needed, and the follow-up discussion indicated that this new information and helpful, and would be given serious consideration. The discussions with each of the Commissioners’ legal advisors went well, but were more general in nature. In this regard, the Amateur Television Network filed an effective email with Commissioners that included a letter from the California Governor’s Office of Emergency Services (CALoes) describing the radio amateur contributions and specifically calling out the need for 3 GHz and why other bands are not sufficient. Finally, please note that the proceeding is now closed. Do not solicit any contact with the FCC – all contact on these matters is prohibited from now until a final Report and Order / Further Notice of Proposed Rulemaking is released, and anyone inquiring should be told this. There can be no calls, emails, or filings at the FCC with regard to the issues under consideration. Please make this clear to anyone who may contact you about submitting comments. The publicly-filed accounts of the meetings described above are at these links: ARRL: 9/23 Meetings with FCC Commissioner Legal Advisors 3.4 GHz Proceeding<https://tinyurl.com/yyklqyap> ARRL: 9/21 Meeting with FCC Staff Team 3.4 GHz Proceeding<https://tinyurl.com/y34vodk9> The communication from ATN is here: ATN Email FCC Ex Parte 9/23<https://tinyurl.com/y4k8ncx5> Please feel free to let me know of any comments. 73, Dave K3ZJ David R. Siddall Managing Partner DS Law, PLLC 1629 K St. NW, Ste 300 Washington, DC 20006 direct: +1 202 559 4690 Unauthorized Disclosure Prohibited. This e-mail is intended solely for the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, it is prohibited to disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email and its attachments. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all electronic and physical copies of the e-mail message and its attachments. Unintended transmission shall not constitute waiver of attorney-client or any other privilege. Thank you. _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv

Diane, can you have someone get with Dave and try to get something crafted for the weekend? Rick -----Original Message----- From: david davidsiddall-law. com <david@davidsiddall-law.com> To: k5ur@aol.com <k5ur@aol.com>; arrl-odv@arrl.org <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Sent: Fri, Sep 25, 2020 10:45 am Subject: [arrl-odv:31045] Re: FCC 3.4 GHz Proceeding Update #yiv7624041214 #yiv7624041214 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv7624041214 #yiv7624041214 p.yiv7624041214MsoNormal, #yiv7624041214 li.yiv7624041214MsoNormal, #yiv7624041214 div.yiv7624041214MsoNormal {margin:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv7624041214 a:link, #yiv7624041214 span.yiv7624041214MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv7624041214 span.yiv7624041214EmailStyle27 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv7624041214 .yiv7624041214MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered {}#yiv7624041214 div.yiv7624041214WordSection1 {}#yiv7624041214 No problem from my perspective, so long as any article is clear that no one should be submitting anything in the record or otherwise contacting the FCC. The “sunshine” no contact provision is one of the few deadlines that the Commission takes very seriously. Also, keep in mind that next Wednesday there will be the bigger news – what the FCC decides (to the extent that it can be deciphered from public information before release of the text). From: "k5ur@aol.com" <k5ur@aol.com> Reply-To: "k5ur@aol.com" <k5ur@aol.com> Date: Friday, September 25, 2020 at 11:16 AM To: "david@davidsiddall-law.com" <david@davidsiddall-law.com>, "arrl-odv@arrl.org" <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Subject: Re: [arrl-odv:31035] FCC 3.4 GHz Proceeding Update David, to what extent can we tell members what you've said below or should we refer them to the two public links? It might be good to have an article about the two meetings to show our members the action we've taken and reference the two public links of your letters. Rick -----Original Message----- From: david davidsiddall-law. com <david@davidsiddall-law.com> To: arrl-odv@arrl.org <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Sent: Thu, Sep 24, 2020 9:54 pm Subject: [arrl-odv:31035] FCC 3.4 GHz Proceeding Update ODV: A quick update on the 3.4 GHz proceeding. Next Wednesday the Commission will meet and take final action, with the written decision being issued soon thereafter – usually within a week. On Monday I met (by telephone) with the FCC team staffing this decision. Yesterday I followed up with three of the Commissioners’ Legal Advisors who are reviewing the draft decision and will work out any changes that the Commissioners feel should be made. (And we hope that amateur secondary access is one of the changes that they will consider.) Our main focus was to emphasize the benefits that derive from amateur use of this spectrum and to put forward the reasons that continued shared use should be permitted. From the discussion it became apparent that one reason they felt amateurs should be treated differently than experimental licensees – who also operate on a non-interference basis in this spectrum – is staff concern that amateur 3.4 GHz operations are not clearly identified and therefore would be hard to find if interference occurs or coordination with the primary user needed to prevent interference. After quite a bit of discussion, I referred them to 97.303(g) as an existing amateur rule that could be used to guide a notification requirement, if they felt one is needed, and the follow-up discussion indicated that this new information and helpful, and would be given serious consideration. The discussions with each of the Commissioners’ legal advisors went well, but were more general in nature. In this regard, the Amateur Television Network filed an effective email with Commissioners that included a letter from the California Governor’s Office of Emergency Services (CALoes) describing the radio amateur contributions and specifically calling out the need for 3 GHz and why other bands are not sufficient. Finally, please note that the proceeding is now closed. Do not solicit any contact with the FCC – all contact on these matters is prohibited from now until a final Report and Order / Further Notice of Proposed Rulemaking is released, and anyone inquiring should be told this. There can be no calls, emails, or filings at the FCC with regard to the issues under consideration. Please make this clear to anyone who may contact you about submitting comments. The publicly-filed accounts of the meetings described above are at these links: ARRL: 9/23 Meetings with FCC Commissioner Legal Advisors 3.4 GHz Proceeding ARRL: 9/21 Meeting with FCC Staff Team 3.4 GHz Proceeding The communication from ATN is here: ATN Email FCC Ex Parte 9/23 Please feel free to let me know of any comments. 73, Dave K3ZJ David R. Siddall Managing Partner DS Law, PLLC 1629 K St. NW, Ste 300 Washington, DC 20006 direct: +1 202 559 4690 Unauthorized Disclosure Prohibited. This e-mail is intended solely for the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, it is prohibited to disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email and its attachments. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all electronic and physical copies of the e-mail message and its attachments. Unintended transmission shall not constitute waiver of attorney-client or any other privilege. Thank you. _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv
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