Kay: Trust me, after going through this, I think I would rather go to the dentist. At least I know I can talk to a live human being in the process!! The labyrinth of the beauracracies of these organizations is amazing. 73, Barry, N1VXY -----Original Message----- From: Craigie, Kay (2nd Vice President) Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 9:17 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:8006] Re: Juno as well Barry, thanks for all that staff has done to correct the ridiculous actions of these ISP's. For pure entertainment value, it must have rivaled getting a tooth crowned. 73 - Kay WT3P