[arrl-odv:29157] Fw: NPRMs will devastate AREDN as Amateur Radio Emcom Technology

See the following from K6AH. Is anyone the leader of our effort in this matter? Is anyone appropriate for the liaison role K6AH desires? Also, is there any chance that we might prevail in this matter? Are we fighting a hopeless battle? 73, Dick, N6AAhome from Africa ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Andre Hansen <andre.k6ah@gmail.com>To: "n6aa@arrl.org" <n6aa@arrl.org>Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019, 04:08:09 PM PSTSubject: NPRMs will devastate AREDN as Amateur Radio Emcom Technology Thanks for what you are all doing. Can we get the board's best advice on how to approach the comment period? Does the league have a template we can follow for submitting comments? Is there a preferred strategy on whether individual comments are better than say, AREDN collective comment, vs ARRL collective comments? What's the best way to mobilize our users into action? And what actions would you suggest? We are already putting the word out to served agencies and asking them to comment. In the mean time we are exploring the possibility of moving the operating frequency of our 3 & 5 GHz supported devices. Lastly, is there an individual at the league we can use as a liaison? Since AREDN users are spread throughout the US some areas are hearing from their directors that the outcome looks bleak. Thanks and 73, Andre, K6AH

Are we fighting a hopeless battle? I hate to be negative, Dick, but I wonder that myself. The period of time we sat in the open meeting (and we missed part to go to another FCC meeting) left me with the impression the FCC is really interested in auctioning frequencies, which isn't good for us, but that they would consider reallocation elsewhere in the band. Rick -----Original Message----- From: Richard Norton via arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> To: ODV <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Sent: Thu, Dec 19, 2019 12:57 pm Subject: [arrl-odv:29157] Fw: NPRMs will devastate AREDN as Amateur Radio Emcom Technology See the following from K6AH. Is anyone the leader of our effort in this matter? Is anyone appropriate for the liaison role K6AH desires? Also, is there any chance that we might prevail in this matter? Are we fighting a hopeless battle? 73, Dick, N6AAhome from Africa ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Andre Hansen <andre.k6ah@gmail.com>To: "n6aa@arrl.org" <n6aa@arrl.org>Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019, 04:08:09 PM PSTSubject: NPRMs will devastate AREDN as Amateur Radio Emcom Technology Thanks for what you are all doing. Can we get the board's best advice on how to approach the comment period? Does the league have a template we can follow for submitting comments? Is there a preferred strategy on whether individual comments are better than say, AREDN collective comment, vs ARRL collective comments? What's the best way to mobilize our users into action? And what actions would you suggest? We are already putting the word out to served agencies and asking them to comment. In the mean time we are exploring the possibility of moving the operating frequency of our 3 & 5 GHz supported devices. Lastly, is there an individual at the league we can use as a liaison? Since AREDN users are spread throughout the US some areas are hearing from their directors that the outcome looks bleak. Thanks and 73, Andre, K6AH _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv

Perhaps it's time for a frank discussion about what we need, what we want, what we can live with, and what chips we have to barter with. If, for example, we were to trade away a big chunk of these frequencies in exchange for smaller chunks in which we were protected as primary users? Mikek1twf Mike Raisbeck k1twf@arrl.net -----Original Message----- From: Roderick, Rick, K5UR via arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> To: richardjnorton <richardjnorton@yahoo.com>; arrl-odv <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Sent: Thu, Dec 19, 2019 2:07 pm Subject: [arrl-odv:29159] Re: Fw: NPRMs will devastate AREDN as Amateur Radio Emcom Technology Are we fighting a hopeless battle? I hate to be negative, Dick, but I wonder that myself. The period of time we sat in the open meeting (and we missed part to go to another FCC meeting) left me with the impression the FCC is really interested in auctioning frequencies, which isn't good for us, but that they would consider reallocation elsewhere in the band. Rick -----Original Message----- From: Richard Norton via arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> To: ODV <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Sent: Thu, Dec 19, 2019 12:57 pm Subject: [arrl-odv:29157] Fw: NPRMs will devastate AREDN as Amateur Radio Emcom Technology See the following from K6AH. Is anyone the leader of our effort in this matter? Is anyone appropriate for the liaison role K6AH desires? Also, is there any chance that we might prevail in this matter? Are we fighting a hopeless battle? 73, Dick, N6AAhome from Africa ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Andre Hansen <andre.k6ah@gmail.com>To: "n6aa@arrl.org" <n6aa@arrl.org>Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019, 04:08:09 PM PSTSubject: NPRMs will devastate AREDN as Amateur Radio Emcom Technology Thanks for what you are all doing. Can we get the board's best advice on how to approach the comment period? Does the league have a template we can follow for submitting comments? Is there a preferred strategy on whether individual comments are better than say, AREDN collective comment, vs ARRL collective comments? What's the best way to mobilize our users into action? And what actions would you suggest? We are already putting the word out to served agencies and asking them to comment. In the mean time we are exploring the possibility of moving the operating frequency of our 3 & 5 GHz supported devices. Lastly, is there an individual at the league we can use as a liaison? Since AREDN users are spread throughout the US some areas are hearing from their directors that the outcome looks bleak. Thanks and 73, Andre, K6AH _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv

As long as those smaller chunks were still within the operating parameters of existing equipment. One reason AREDN and similar networks are growing is because of readily available and relatively inexpensive equipment. If the primary allocation were to fall outside the bandwidth of commercial equipment that would be almost as bad as just loosing altogether. Mr Siddal has quite a bit of information, and I hope we can see something from him very soon. Mark, HDX On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 11:15 AM Mike Raisbeck via arrl-odv < arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> wrote:
Perhaps it's time for a frank discussion about what we need, what we want, what we can live with, and what chips we have to barter with.
If, for example, we were to trade away a big chunk of these frequencies in exchange for smaller chunks in which we were protected as primary users?
Mike k1twf
Mike Raisbeck k1twf@arrl.net
-----Original Message----- From: Roderick, Rick, K5UR via arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> To: richardjnorton <richardjnorton@yahoo.com>; arrl-odv <arrl-odv@arrl.org
Sent: Thu, Dec 19, 2019 2:07 pm Subject: [arrl-odv:29159] Re: Fw: NPRMs will devastate AREDN as Amateur Radio Emcom Technology
Are we fighting a hopeless battle?
I hate to be negative, Dick, but I wonder that myself. The period of time we sat in the open meeting (and we missed part to go to another FCC meeting) left me with the impression the FCC is really interested in auctioning frequencies, which isn't good for us, but that they would consider reallocation elsewhere in the band.
Rick
-----Original Message----- From: Richard Norton via arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> To: ODV <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Sent: Thu, Dec 19, 2019 12:57 pm Subject: [arrl-odv:29157] Fw: NPRMs will devastate AREDN as Amateur Radio Emcom Technology
See the following from K6AH.
Is anyone the leader of our effort in this matter? Is anyone appropriate for the liaison role K6AH desires?
Also, is there any chance that we might prevail in this matter? Are we fighting a hopeless battle?
73,
Dick, N6AA home from Africa
----- Forwarded Message ----- *From:* Andre Hansen <andre.k6ah@gmail.com> *To:* "n6aa@arrl.org" <n6aa@arrl.org> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2019, 04:08:09 PM PST *Subject:* NPRMs will devastate AREDN as Amateur Radio Emcom Technology
Thanks for what you are all doing. Can we get the board's best advice on how to approach the comment period? Does the league have a template we can follow for submitting comments? Is there a preferred strategy on whether individual comments are better than say, AREDN collective comment, vs ARRL collective comments?
What's the best way to mobilize our users into action? And what actions would you suggest? We are already putting the word out to served agencies and asking them to comment.
In the mean time we are exploring the possibility of moving the operating frequency of our 3 & 5 GHz supported devices.
Lastly, is there an individual at the league we can use as a liaison? Since AREDN users are spread throughout the US some areas are hearing from their directors that the outcome looks bleak.
Thanks and 73,
Andre, K6AH _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv
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k5ur@aol.com
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Mark J Tharp
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Mike Raisbeck
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Richard Norton