RE: [arrl-odv:19253] Re: Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 09:03:18 -0400
Chris, Excellent point for concern. I didn't include a comment that these towers were around 70 years old. Properly designed, built and maintained, this fact should have little if any difference in keeping them standing. Conversely, inadequately maintained could have resulted in them being weakened by corrosion. Incidentally, the WLW radio tower that handled the station's 500 kW transmissions and that was built in the 1030's still stand gloriously about 1 1/2 miles from my QTH. This tower literally rocks on a ball-to-ball pivot at its base and is held erect by several large guy wires. It truly is properly maintained. 73, Jim Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director ARRL Great Lakes Division 5065 Bethany Rd. Mason, OH 45040; Tel. 513-459-1661 ARRL, The national organization for AMATEUR RADIO _____ From: Chris Imlay [mailto:w3kd@aol.com] Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 9:04 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:19253] Re: Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 09:03:18 -0400 This makes me nervous, because a cornerstone of our argument about setbacks in antenna cases and ordinance negotiations are that towers typically fall within a narrow radius around the base of the tower; a small percentage of their height. These towers most certainly did not do that, but that may be due to the fact that it was a three-tower DA. Not sure. And the towers were "windmill" type, too. Not a design that one would think would collapse near the base and fall laterally. 73, Chris W3KD Christopher D. Imlay Booth, Freret, Imlay & Tepper. P.C. 14356 Cape May Road Silver Spring, Maryland 20904-6011 (301) 384-5525 telephone (301) 384-6384 facsimile W3KD@ARRL.ORG -----Original Message----- From: Gary Johnston KI4LA <ki4la@arrl.org> To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Cc: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Thu, Aug 5, 2010 9:46 pm Subject: [arrl-odv:19251] Re: Oh my. Incredible. Sent from Gary's iPhone 4. On Aug 5, 2010, at 7:45 PM, "Jim Weaver K8JE" <K8JE@ARRL.org> wrote: In case you would like to see several very ugly pictures (from the perspective of anyone involved in radio) go to <http://www.wwva.com/cc-common/gallery/display.html?album_id=244870> http://www.wwva.com/cc-common/gallery/display.html?album_id=244870 From, the station;s call sign and the residence of the Ohio member who sent this to me, I believe the station is located in Wheeling, WV -- Director Bodson's territory. The winds seemed to have been straight-line, but might as well have been a tornado. Incidentally, the URL is good, but I had to cut and paste to make it work. The link appears to be broken. 73, Jim Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director ARRL Great Lakes Division 5065 Bethany Rd. Mason, OH 45040; Tel. 513-459-1661 ARRL, The national organization for AMATEUR RADIO No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3053 - Release Date: 08/05/10 14:23:00
Jim, WLW is near and dear to my heart. When I next see you I will bring you a photo I have of my old mentor and long-time ARRL General Counsel Bob Booth, W3PS, when a young man working as an engineer at WLW, sporting a huge backpack, VHF RPU unit with a big old steel whip antenna coming right out the top (and very near the back of his head) while the WLW "talent" did some remote interview with a wired mic connected to Bob's RPU transmitter. Bob always claimed to have developed the first RPU portable, but then, Bob's memories tended to typically favor Bob in the retelling, increasingly so as time passed. Later, a broadcast engineer of great competence and a ham, Al Kenyon, a friend of mine, was the Chief at WLW. I loved listening to the AM clear channels at night while in college in Hartford. 73, Chris W3KD Christopher D. Imlay Booth, Freret, Imlay & Tepper. P.C. 14356 Cape May Road Silver Spring, Maryland 20904-6011 (301) 384-5525 telephone (301) 384-6384 facsimile W3KD@ARRL.ORG -----Original Message----- From: Jim Weaver K8JE <K8JE@ARRL.org> To: 'Chris Imlay' <w3kd@aol.com>; 'arrl-odv' <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Fri, Aug 6, 2010 4:56 pm Subject: RE: [arrl-odv:19253] Re: Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 09:03:18 -0400 Chris, Excellent point for concern. I didn't include a comment that these towers were around 70 years old. Properly designed, built and maintained, this fact should have little if any difference in keeping them standing. Conversely, inadequately maintained could have resulted in them being weakened by corrosion. Incidentally, the WLW radio tower that handled the station's 500 kW transmissions and that was built in the 1030's still stand gloriously about 1 1/2 miles from my QTH. This tower literally rocks on a ball-to-ball pivot at its base and is held erect by several large guy wires. It truly is properly maintained. 73, Jim Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director ARRL Great Lakes Division 5065 Bethany Rd. Mason, OH 45040; Tel. 513-459-1661 ARRL, The national organization for AMATEUR RADIO From: Chris Imlay [mailto:w3kd@aol.com] Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 9:04 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:19253] Re: Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 09:03:18 -0400 This makes me nervous, because a cornerstone of our argument about setbacks in antenna cases and ordinance negotiations are that towers typically fall within a narrow radius around the base of the tower; a small percentage of their height. These towers most certainly did not do that, but that may be due to the fact that it was a three-tower DA. Not sure. And the towers were "windmill" type, too. Not a design that one would think would collapse near the base and fall laterally. 73, Chris W3KD Christopher D. Imlay Booth, Freret, Imlay & Tepper. P.C. 14356 Cape May Road Silver Spring, Maryland 20904-6011 (301) 384-5525 telephone (301) 384-6384 facsimile W3KD@ARRL.ORG -----Original Message----- From: Gary Johnston KI4LA <ki4la@arrl.org> To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Cc: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Thu, Aug 5, 2010 9:46 pm Subject: [arrl-odv:19251] Re: Oh my. Incredible. Sent from Gary's iPhone 4. On Aug 5, 2010, at 7:45 PM, "Jim Weaver K8JE" <K8JE@ARRL.org> wrote: In case you would like to see several very ugly pictures (from the perspective of anyone involved in radio) go to http://www.wwva.com/cc-common/gallery/display.html?album_id=244870 From, the station;s call sign and the residence of the Ohio member who sent this to me, I believe the station is located in Wheeling, WV -- Director Bodson's territory. The winds seemed to have been straight-line, but might as well have been a tornado. Incidentally, the URL is good, but I had to cut and paste to make it work. The link appears to be broken. 73, Jim Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director ARRL Great Lakes Division 5065 Bethany Rd. Mason, OH 45040; Tel. 513-459-1661 ARRL, The national organization for AMATEUR RADIO No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3053 - Release Date: 08/05/10 14:23:00
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