So, we will use the clean answer of >350KM. I wil answer W4TV with this. Should this be added to the online article? b) Island Areas (Separation by Water): A new entity results in the case of an island under any of the following conditions: i) The island is separated from its Parent, and any other islands that make up the DXCC entity that contains the Parent, by 350 kilometers or more. Measurement of islands in a group begins with measurement from the island containing the capital city. Only one entity of this type may be attached to any Parent. ii) The island is separated from its Parent by 350 kilometers or more, and from any other island attached to that Parent in the same or a different island group by 800 kilometers or more. 73, Greg Sarratt, W4OZK ________________________________ From: "Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ" <dsumner@arrl.org> To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Thu, October 14, 2010 9:04:23 AM Subject: RE: W4TV's measurments You’re quite right, Dwayne. It’s fortunate that it comes out this way because it would be quite a mess otherwise. The Netherlands Antilles have been two separate DXCC entities by reason of distance separation since 1955. The two parts are in different continents, so CQ would count them separately anyway. Dave From:Dwayne Allen [mailto:dwayne@wy7fd.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 11:02 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: W4TV's measurments Folks, I am no lawyer (thankfully) but the following was copied from the DXCC rules. 2. Geographic Separation Entity b) Island Areas (Separation by Water): ii) The island is separated from its Parent by 350 kilometers or more, and from any other island attached to that Parent in the same or a different island group by 800 kilometers or more. I see no instructions on the method of measurement to be employed in determining the distance between the islands or island group. If the greater circle method was used in determining the correct distance between Saba and Bonaire, then the distance is 801 KM. This is clearly a case of nit-picking. Also if one employs the scientific significant figures rules, 799.609 will round to 800 anyway. If I am wrong, please correct me… I am used to it. . My two cents worth. 73, WY7FD, Dwayne Allen Vice-Director ARRL Rocky Mountain Division