Bob et al., I have reached out to Ted on this and other issues in the past and recently. I'm visiting his lab at a time to be determined after he returns to NYU for another academic year. I'm not promising to turn him, but I am confident we will have a productive discussion on areas of mutual interest, including not only the symbol rate proceeding, but also the ongoing Spectrum Frontiers 5G initiative at the FCC and the corresponding WRC-19 agenda item. 47 GHz is within the boresight of the latter. We dodged a bullet in the former thanks in part to Ted's work on the millimeter waves and his belief that an amateur allocation within them is vital to their continued development. 73 de Brennan N4QX/VE3 Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network. Original Message From: Famiglio, Bob, K3RF Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 11:31 To: Gallagher, Tom, NY2RF; Frenaye, Tom, K1KI Cc: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:25576] Re: RM-11708 I assume that someone has called Ted Rappaport, N9NB to at least chat about any common ground? I have known Ted for some years through Radio Club of America while he was on the board and I was VP & General Counsel. Bought him more than a few drinks over the years around the country with night-long BS sessions. He is very pro-amateur radio as many of you likely know. I would not claim we can persuade him, he thinks things through before taking a position. However, we might find common ground (like the limit on bandwidth) at least, and leave the amount of the limit to the FCC. That seems to be the plan I surmise. He is a brilliant engineer and professor. And he is rational of course. He is also good friends with Tim Duffy, K3LR, DX engineering CEO and our ARRL Western PA section manager. Ted works the K3LR multi-multi station for the contests. Tim is also president of RCA in which Ted, N9NB, was active for our youth education programs. Maybe Tim can provide us some insight as to approaching Ted. Somebody needs to buy Ted lunch and at least appreciate his position and see if there are opportunities to cooperate. Maybe someone has already? Bob Famiglio, K3RF Vice Director, ARRL Atlantic Division 610-359-7300 www.QRZ.com/db/K3RF -----Original Message----- From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of Gallagher, Tom, NY2RF Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 11:14 PM To: Frenaye, Tom, K1KI; arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:25574] Re: RM-11708 Tom: as you point out, N9NB's views are apparently entrenched, and they are widely disseminated. As Brennan has pointed out earlier, we already have a web posting http://www.arrl.org/rm-11708-faq Short of conducting a PR war with him, which might be viewed as an ad hominem attack, I don't see the value in singling him out. Lots of people disagree with the League on a wide variety of topics I am learning and we might have to accept disagreement comes with the territory. Brennan has scheduled a face-to-face meeting among the here of us later this month. Hopefully, while we may not persuade him to our point of view, we may be able to convince him to turn down the volume and allow the FCC process to take its course. If you feel strongly to the contrary, call me when you can. Tom G -----Original Message----- From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of Frenaye, Tom, K1KI Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 4:45 PM To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:25571] RM-11708 TomG/Brendan/Chris - N9NB's comments about RM-11708 are getting pretty broad distribution. Will we be posting a web story that helps to counter it? Or, is there a summary of points available I can use for responding to the people that have contacted me? I think I understand much of it but it's a complex topic and I want to be sure I get it right. Thanks -- Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki@arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444 _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv