Thanks info, Howard. What say folks? "Yes" or "no" to adding Dave to ODV. 73Rick - K5UR -----Original Message----- From: Michel, Howard, WB2ITX (CEO) <wb2itx@arrl.org> To: Jairam, Ria, N2RJ, (Dir, HD) <rjairam@gmail.com>; Ritz, Mike, W7VO, (Dir, NW) <w7vo@comcast.net> Cc: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Mon, Sep 9, 2019 3:43 pm Subject: [arrl-odv:28728] Re: Addition of Mr. Siddall to ODV To Ria's question, Dan researched it and can find nothing in the minutes or elsewhere stating counsel should not be added to reflectors. By precedent, Atty Imlay was on ODV and the EC reflectors.Regarding charges, in January Atty Siddall told me he would not charge for reading short emails, but I don't have anything in writing, or exact details about what constitutes "short." His contract specifies that he will not charge for phone calls of five minutes or less.When Atty Siddall was first contracted, he wasn’t sure whether it would be helpful for him to be on ODV. Since then he has reached out to Dan, me and I believe Rick saying that it would be helpful to have a better understanding of the Board's thinking when he is writing filings, etc.I think the above answers the open questions. Rick, I don't think you need a formal motion or a vote, but as a courtesy to the Board, you should confirm there are no other objections to adding Atty Siddall to ODV. 73, Howard On 9/7/2019 7:17 PM, rjairam@gmail.com wrote: To be clear, my concern only was with adhering to any resolutions we agreed on. I have no problems with adding him either, provided we aren’t going against a previous resolution. Ria, N2RJ On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 6:20 PM Michael Ritz <w7vo@comcast.net> wrote: As long as Mr. Siddall agrees that ODV time does not result in billable hours, I have no other issues with him being on this reflector. Greg is correct in that his insight and experience would be a valuable asset. I just don't know what his contract stipulates as to what constitutes billable hours. 73;MikeW7VO On September 7, 2019 at 12:17 PM G Widin <gpwidin@comcast.net> wrote: Mike’s points are well taken.At the same time, if Mr. Siddall were “reading the mail”, he would encounter issues where his advice, provided early on, could help the Board avoid mistakes or become aware of superior alternatives that they were not aware of. If our counsel is good, in the long run having him along for the ride should be valuable and cost effective. Also, though I can’t find the e-mail in a quick search, I believe that Mr. Siddall has stated that he does not charge for time reading the mail, just as he has said he doesn’t charge for time to accept phone calls of reasonable length. A final point—if Mr. Siddall rides along, whenever members of the Board feel that advice of counsel is appropriate, it will take him minimal time to get up to speed and provide that advice. If he is not on ODV, he will need to catch up (and I presume that time will be billable). Just my comments on the other sideband. ;-)73, Greg, K0GW On Saturday, September 7, 2019, Michael Ritz < w7vo@comcast.net> wrote: Here is my take on adding Mr. Siddall, K3ZJ to the ODV list: While as an insightful resource it'd be great to get his perspective on things, I have two considerations: 1. Mr. Siddall is essentially a highly paid consultant to the Board. I don't know what we have in the form of a contract with his firm, and don't know whether or not he's on any form of a retainer. If he's not on a retainer, he charges by the hour. Those hours are not inexpensive, and could potentially add up quickly if he's tasked with, or believes he is tasked with, researching a random question that comes up on ODV. 2. As a highly paid consultant, we probably should limit points of contact. Right now it's only select members of the EC that he's working with, on specific tasks related to the FCC filings. Would ODV be a distraction? Just my two watts. 73;MikeW7VO On September 4, 2019 at 5:10 PM Mark J Tharp < kb7hdx@gmail.com> wrote: I seem to recall that discussion as well however do not recall the outcome. IMHO I think we can include counsel via direct email and re-posts if necessary. As with Ria, I mean no disrespect to Mr. Siddall, but the ODV should be that, ODV. Just the opinion of a back seat driver. :) Mark, KB7HDXVD NW Div. On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 1:58 PM rjairam@gmail.com < rjairam@gmail.com> wrote: I also want to know. And while I respect Mr. Siddall, I have to look back into my board book in January to see if we even allowed our counsel to be added to ODV. I do know Imlay was here but I thought that practice was now ended. Need some clarity please. Let’s get this right. RiaN2RJ On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 4:55 PM Michael Ritz < w7vo@comcast.net> wrote: "In accordance with Standing Order 89-1.43, I hope that newly elected Southwestern Division Vice Director Mark Weiss, K6FG, is added to the ODV list as soon as possible. 73, Dick Norton, N6AA" Question: Did Mark Weiss, K6FG, ever get added to the ODV reflector? 73; MikeW7VO On September 4, 2019 at 12:19 PM "Henderson, Dan N1ND" < dhenderson@arrl.org> wrote: At the direction of President Roderick, I have added Mr. Siddall to the ODV reflector. 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