Dave, I share the concerns raised by A&F and Board members about intellectual property and digital rights management. And I think staff responded appropriately. It's best to start with more restrictive DRM measures and move to more open access. It will be helpful to know what DRM methods our vendor has available (such as username and password, or restrictions or limits on copying files) and then resolve policy questions on how best to strike a balance between fair use by our members and protection from file-sharing with non-members. My personal view is the same as yours. If we can protect against unreasonable file-sharing, I would like to allow members to save a copy of their QST magazine locally, which appears to be easily accomplished in Nxtbook as I described last night. And archive access should be limited to current, not former, members (except to the extent they downloaded and saved copies during their membership terms). I'm glad all is well at the Region 1 Conference. The heat wave has moderated greatly from the triple digit temps we had during much of July and early August. But those cool Fall temperatures you describe sound wonderful. 73, Cliff K0CA From: arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 2:41 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:20155] Re: Electronic QST--unanswered questions aboutarchives Cliff, back in January Board members rightly expressed concerns about intellectual property rights protection. Staff's recommendations at this point respond to those concerns. My own view is that allowing members to save the copy is appropriate. Keeping archives open to former members in my view is not appropriate. That would represent an ongoing obligation to someone who is no longer paying for it. The Region 1 Conference is off to a good start. This is my first trip to South Africa and I was a bit surprised to discover that the temperatures (it being winter here) are about what I would expect in New England in October: 40s at night and high 60s during the day. Fortunately, I was forewarned and brought a jacket. 73, Dave K1ZZ _____ From: arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org on behalf of Cliff Ahrens Sent: Sun 8/14/2011 3:06 AM To: 'K0GW'; arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:20154] Re: Electronic QST--unanswered questions aboutarchives I was able to save the Nxtbook sample digital September 2010 QST to my desktop. Just click on the following link to the QST Digital Edition Demo: http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/arrl/qst_201009/#/0 Then click on the "Save to Your Desktop" icon in the upper right of the Nxtbook menu bar. It saved the entire QST monthly edition to my desktop - 43.8 MB. The file is an Adobe Air file. It will prompt you to install the free Adobe Air application, which then opens the digital QST. As far as I can tell from a quick check, all the features of the Internet Web browser edition are identical, including access by contents and pages, It took just a minute or two to save it to my computer. Dial-up users would have longer download times, but once downloaded to the member's computer, access should be very quick. Staff will need to tell us if this "Save to Desktop" feature will be available, and what digital rights management protections can be included to prevent sharing and copyright protections. Cliff K0CA From: arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of K0GW Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 6:28 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:20149] Electronic QST--unanswered questions about archives While we've discussed many facets of an electronic QST, I think there is one group of questions still unanswered--what will be a user's access to the archive? Many members have and are proud of their collection of past QST issues. For example, at one point, I had every issue from 1963 to the present (until I started getting the CD-ROMs). Leaving for the moment the difference in media, will members be able to "keep" their copies in the same way? From what's been discussed so far, it appears that a member will be able to view/use the issue, but not save a digital copy. This would mean that a user would need to be online continuously to read an issue. Would we preclude downloading to read elsewhere offline? Would printing be disabled? Would only current members be able to read archive years, while a lapsed member would be unable to review an issue, even if it was published during the time he/she was a member? If I have a current subscription/membership, does that mean I have access to all the past issues? I am not objecting to electronic delivery, just wondering how we should address the complicated access questions that can be raised. Any suggestions? 73, Greg, K0GW