Steve, Your comment makes good sense. I agree. - Bill N3LLR AR>Ladies and gentlemen. AR>The discussion of how to differentiate ourselves from served agencies AR>onscene is what brought the vest idea to the fore. AR>One of the discussion points was the need to identify Amateur Radio AR>operators to the public, police, fire, coast guard, etc, officials. AR>Whatever the choice I would like to ask that abbreviations NOT be used. AR>While WE know what ARES and RACES are abbreviations for, nobody else does. AR>A clearly stated "Amateur Radio Emergency Services" or "Radio Amateur AR>Civil Emergency Service" logo on the front and back of any wearable means AR>more than ARES or RACES. AR>Let us not forget the reason we are doing this and be very clear in our AR>message to the public. AR>-73- Steve, W2ML