Joe Speroni seems to have it figured out:
http://www.ah0a.org/FCC/Clubs5.htm
Dave
From: Chris Imlay
[mailto:w3kd@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 2:18 PM
To: arrl-odv
Subject: Re: [arrl-odv:19507] RE: [arrl-odv:19506] Vanity call sign
Report and Order
True enough, the same trustee using multiple FRNs would be in
violation of the new rules, but it might be less easy than you think to catch
them at it.
Chris
Christopher D. Imlay
Booth, Freret, Imlay & Tepper. P.C.
14356 Cape May Road
Silver Spring, Maryland 20904-6011
(301) 384-5525 telephone
(301) 384-6384 facsimile
W3KD@ARRL.ORG
-----Original Message-----
From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ <dsumner@arrl.org>
To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org>
Sent: Tue, Nov 9, 2010 9:56 am
Subject: RE: [arrl-odv:19507] RE: [arrl-odv:19506] Vanity call sign Report and
Order
Thanks, Chris. While a trustee might be able to fool the system
into accepting an application for an additional club vanity call sign, my
reading of 97.19(a) is that the trustee would not be eligible for the second
club vanity call and the FCC could pull it after it was issued. Given the
number of watchdogs looking for vanity call sign abuses, such a violation would
not go undetected for long. However, I see nothing in the rules to prevent a
club from having multiple trustees.
Dave
From: Chris Imlay [mailto:w3kd@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 9:27 AM
To: arrl-odv
Subject: Re: [arrl-odv:19507] RE: [arrl-odv:19506] Vanity call sign
Report and Order
Yes, Dave, Section 97.19 IS badly worded. And there are actually
two loopholes that would allow a club to have an unlimited number of club call
signs despite the language in that revised Section and Section 97.17(d) as
amended by the Order. Here's why: (1) a club could simply have multiple
trustees, as you note; or (2) the same trustee could get multiple FRNs
and use his or her own name multiple times. The ULS goes by FRN, not name,
because licensees can have the same name and be two different persons. You
can have multiple FRNs for the same Social Security Number or EIN (I know this
because I do, and so do some of my clients). So, in order to fool the ULS
(though perhaps not its successor, the consolidated database system now
under development) it is easy to register for any number of FRNs and therefore
any number of club licenses.
As to the FCC's rather brusque dismissal of ARRL's proposals to
increase the availability of Group A callsigns and other helpful proposals, the
Executive Committee discussed, since we knew in advance that FCC was going to
not adopt our proposals, how to respond. We discussed the two alternatives,
depending on how the FCC addressed our proposals. If they simply said they were
beyond the scope of the rulemaking, we would consider filing a separate
petition for issuance of further rulemaking or a stand-alone petition. However,
if the FCC dealt with our proposals substantively, we would have no choice but to
either (1) forget it, or (2) file a Petition for Reconsideration. Since the FCC
did in fact deal with our proposals in a substantive manner (albeit tersely and
summarily, and in my view not well) we can either abandon the proposals or file
a Petition for Reconsideration. The politics of the matter do not seem overly
favorable to us, but now that this order is out, perhaps the EC might want to
revisit the issue of ARRL's response to this Report and Order. There is time to
consider this. A Petition for Reconsideration is due within 30 days of the date
of publication of the Order in the Federal Register, which of course has not
yet occurred and may not for a few weeks.
73, Chris W3KD
Christopher D. Imlay
Booth, Freret, Imlay & Tepper. P.C.
14356 Cape May Road
Silver Spring, Maryland 20904-6011
(301) 384-5525 telephone
(301) 384-6384 facsimile
W3KD@ARRL.ORG
-----Original Message-----
From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ <dsumner@arrl.org>
To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org>
Sent: Mon, Nov 8, 2010 12:48 pm
Subject: [arrl-odv:19507] RE: [arrl-odv:19506] Vanity call sign Report and
Order
I have read this over. The only possibly controversial parts
that I have spotted are:
1.
Club station trustees are limited to being trustee for one club.
Present trustees are grandfathered. (New 97.17(d)).
2.
The R&O says (paragraph 30) that clubs are limited to one
vanity call sign, with existing holders grandfathered. However, as I read the
rules as adopted, the FCC is assuming that a club can only name one person as a
club station trustee. There appears to be a loophole that will permit a club to
apply for multiple vanity call signs if they appoint multiple trustees. (Note
to Chris Imlay: Chris, am I reading new 97.19(a) correctly? It looks badly
worded to me.)
3.
Unrelated to vanity call signs, the FCC chose to use this
proceeding to delete the rule pertaining to RACES stations – which makes sense
since there are no longer any RACES station licenses, but which probably will
set off a flurry of comment that “the FCC has killed RACES.”
4.
None of our proposals to expand the pools of available call
signs were adopted, nor was our proposal to limit vanity call signs to U.S.
citizens.
Dave K1ZZ
From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ [mailto:dsumner@arrl.org]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 11:49 AM
To: arrl-odv
Subject: [arrl-odv:19506] Vanity call sign Report and Order
I haven’t read this yet.
Dave
<<FCC-10-189A1.pdf>>