Actually, we have 1,463 arrl.net subscribers forwarding their mail to msn.com accounts. There were significantly more on Hotmail....not surprising I guess since Hotmail is free. MSN, however, is a commercial ISP I believe. 73, Barry, N1VXY -----Original Message----- From: Johnston, Gary (Dir, GL) Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:57 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:7991] Re: Continuing Saga Since MSN and Hotmail are essentially free email services, pulling out even 100k users would have a minimal impact on them and their millions of users. However, their Achilles' heel is their advertiser base. Mess with their revenue source and you will get their attention. Have a nice Thanksgiving, all!!! 73, Gary KI4LA on 11/27/02 10:36 AM, Shelley, Barry, N1VXY at bshelley@arrl.org wrote: Tuck: While attractive on the surface, I don't think it would be in the ARRL's best interests to be seen as advocating this type of position. I don't want to go to war with Microsoft...heck, the government couldn't win that one. But I must admit....deep down, there's a part of me that would like to. And, just for everyone's information, some of our arrl.net customers have indicated that this is the route they are taking with Juno.com. 73, Barry, N1VXY -----Original Message----- From: Miller, Tuck (Vice Dir, SW) Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:31 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:7988] Re: Continuing Saga Wonder what JUNO's or even MSN's response would be if our members who have paid accounts with their services would discontinue their accounts and go elsewhere. Curious to see if that would change their minds.... 73, Happy Thanksgiving to all, Tuck NZ6T