Hi Mike: I use "the League" often, and sometimes in the same message I use "ARRL." Where I get tripped up is saying "the ARRL" or simply "ARRL." (hi) 73Rick - K5UR -----Original Message----- From: Michael Ritz <w7vo@comcast.net> To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Fri, Apr 17, 2020 11:03 am Subject: [arrl-odv:30150] Use of "ARRL" question... I have a technical question that has been puzzling me for a while now. Maybe one of the grammar gurus or lawyers can answer this: I've always considered the use of "ARRL" to be an acronym for "American Radio Relay League". That would indicate that a sentence would use the word "the" in reference to the ARRL. For example: "The ARRL (took this action)". What I'm seeing a lot of is: "ARRL (took this action)" ie: "ARRL wants you to stay safe in these times" verses "The ARRL wants you to stay safe in these times". It seems that all of the ARRL news releases I'm seeing now use the former, and not the latter. That seems somewhat odd to me. Are we now just "ARRL" (like "IBM"), and not the "American Radio Relay League" ? Is it still OK to refer to us as "the League", if we are really just "ARRL" now? 73; Mike W7VO _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv