Tom and Dave, Tnx for the info, Tom. I was in the process of running through my hard-copy material, but you saved me time. Dave, I misstated when I referred to minutes. I had been checking to see of the minutes were listed on the web site and had minutes on my mind when I wrote my message. It is actually A&F Board Reports that I cannot access. My question originated because even I am on ODV, when attempting to access A&F Board Reports, I am asked to log in. When I attempt to log in, a message that states in essence denies access appears. Enjoy the 4th in Germany. I am observing the day by watching the Cincy Reds play the Chi Cubs. To make an even greater American celebration, there just may be a hot dog, a couple of pea nuts and a "pop" in my immediate future. No apple pie, though., To everyone, 73 and enjoy, Jim Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director ARRL Great Lakes Division 5065 Bethany Rd. Mason, OH 45040; Tel. 513-459-1661 ARRL, The national organization for AMATEUR RADIO