Hi Mike, Good topic. It's been on my mind. I have also felt that it is an awkward situation for divisions that share states with others. There are really only three states that have this situation - NY, NJ and CA. Additionally, members have told me (unsolicited) that they don't think that Hawaii has a lot in common with CA, or that PR/VI has a lot in common with Florida. In fact, one potential candidate a few years ago was discouraged from running for SE Division as he lived in PR and the travel would nearly always involve a flight. One proposal was to have an "external territories" division comprising those not in CONUS. That is one idea. There are others. So I would like to throw in to the pot: Hudson should cover all of NY and NJ. This would offer several benefits: - The Director of a division has freedom to travel to both state houses and state agency headquarters for meetings with state legislators and heads of state agencies. (I've done it, and they appreciate it). In NJ the state capital is in the Atlantic Division. In NY the state capital is in the Hudson Division. - If NNY, WNY and SNJ become part of Hudson the difference would be 2609 members. The member totals for Atlantic and Hudson would now be 8210 and 9008 respectively, or pretty much even. - State issues would be handled by one division, as is the case with the current issue surrounding ham radio in NY Parks. The history of Hudson was early in the League, and the boundaries haven't shifted much, if at all since it was formed. This would be a good opportunity to consolidate and unify. 73 Ria, N2RJ On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 11:21 AM Mike Raisbeck via arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> wrote:
Folks,
It's been some time since we have discussed the matter of redefining some division boundaries.
Yes, I know just how unpopular this is as a Board topic; it has bubbled up several times during my tenure. No one wants to do it but to ignore it is to condone a very substantial unfairness in the value of the individual vote of our members.
At the moment, the individual votes in the Dakota Division (all 3241 of them) have 4.6 times the clout of individual votes in the Southeastern Division (all 14,943 of them).
QUESTION 1 - is there anyone on this Board that feels this is fair?
QUESTION 2 - is there anyone on this Board who believes this is acceptable?
QUESTION 3 - is there anyone on this Board willing to admit that s/he doesn't have the [name-your-favorite-vital-body-part]'s to do anything about it?
If anyone answers "yes" to any of these, please present your opinion and arguments to the Board so we can discuss.
So, what ARE we going to do about it ??
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