Ria et al., Just to be sure, are we referring to the "RE: [ARRL-LoTW] LoTW 2.0" diatribe that YQ sent? If so, Ria, you should have gotten it - he sent it to n2rj@arrl.org. Bill - it does appear that he missed you. If it was a different email, I'd like a copy ;-) 73,MikeK1TWF -----Original Message----- From: rjairam@gmail.com <rjairam@gmail.com> To: ac0wmoo11@gmail.com Cc: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Sent: Mon, Feb 1, 2021 4:29 pm Subject: [arrl-odv:31882] Re: Advice please He didn’t copy me either. Maybe we ought to see what he said. 73RiaN2RJ On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 3:59 PM AC0W Bill <ac0wmoo11@gmail.com> wrote: He didn’t copy all the directors either, I had to receive second hand also. My opinion is your time is spent better elsewhere. Whatever you send him he will use for ammunition in another message. Someone else noticed some of his references are a little dated. While he takes shots at you, his references are to statements made by previous CEO’s. Bill AC0W From: arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> On Behalf Of Mark J Tharp Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 2:31 PM To: Minster, David NA2AA (CEO) <dminster@arrl.org> Cc: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:31878] Re: Advice please I agree with Bud. YQ seems to be the kind that will never let up, and IMHO the less ammunition you provide in a reply, the better. Also, YQ did not cc all the Vice directors in his letter, so some may be curious what the hub bub is about. I received it second hand so do not feel it appropriate to share myself. Mark, HDX On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 10:04 AM Minster, David NA2AA (CEO) <dminster@arrl.org> wrote: Dear ODV, As you know, I am very open to your guidance and advice. It is key to my success, and ultimately the success of ARRL. I firmly believe that. I have read the diatribe many of you received from Dave Bernstein, AA6YQ, regarding LoTW. I have authored a private response to him – which I have not sent – but if you were to read it, you would conclude that it is firm and brutally honest. So here’s my question: how do YOU take Dave’s soapbox rants and self-aggrandizing, especially when it comes to attacking the CEO (who he did not copy on his rant)? Do you feel it is something worthy of me attempting to manage, or have you (like many) given up on him as a lost cause and feel that I should just ignore his feedback? I’d really like to have him as a resource, but I am struggling with his complete and sustained inability to collaborate and his non-factual statements used to further his inflexible points of view. This is an important issue because creating a collaborative environment with members is everything to me. And it is something that must be managed. David_______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv