If it was indeed, which Jays research shows to be valid, a "back-up" for the current ODV ( or OD in the past) it is apparent that it is not currently being used that way.
A few points,

   It is hosted on the domain of kkn.net. the same as the SW Division website.

   Most on the board seem not to remember this being offered, so it must have been quite some time ago.

   Dick is the only moderator, or even if he is not, it is being used for something other than a true backup to our normal list.

   The board (staff) has no direct control over who is on this ODjr list.

Nothing can, or will prevent communications with other members of the board family outside of ODV. That, to me is sad as the text from the message that was shared the other day sparking this discussion looked to be a good conversation starter with the entire board family, and not just a limited few.

I would suggest, simply, that as the ODjr list is not inclusive of ALL the board family that the board treat it as a non-resource moving forward and forget it exists. I am not in any way condoning the use of ODjr by limited members of the board, but these conversations will, and are going to take place on, or in other formats if not the ODjr list.

To borrow a phrase from Riley,

This is the opinion of a lowly Vice Director.

73, and looking forward to seeing you all in a few weeks.

Mark, HDX


Mark J. Tharp, KB7HDX
ARRL VD NW Div.
509-952-5764
kb7hdx@arrl.org




On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 8:47 PM John Bellows <jbellows@skypoint.com> wrote:
In an effort to make sure I was doing my “homework” I checked and downloaded scovered ODjr was created years ago, with the agreement of HQ, at a time when there was a temporary problem with the OD reflector. The intent was that it would function as a backup to OD if OD was not fully functioning. ODjr was not envisioned as an alternative to OD nor as a private talk group for less all the Officers and Directors.

For convenience the moderator was Director Norton. Apparently he continues to be the moderator of ODjr.

As previously noted access is available only with permission of the moderator. On Sunday I asked Director Norton to allow me access to ODjr. I also requested access to the archive of ODjr because it was to be a backup to OD and OD archives are available to officers and directors. To date he has not granted access or even responded to my request.

Since ODjr was established as a backup to OD available to all OD members restricting access and not disclosing who has been granted access appears to be contrary to the stated purpose and intent of creating ODjr.

73,
Jay, K0QB

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