I have an inquiry in to Frank McCarthy to see if we are in time to do anything about this. First hurdle.... Thanks, Chris. Let's see what we can do. Rick ... -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Imlay <w3kd.arrl@gmail.com> To: John Bellows <jbellows@skypoint.com> Cc: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Sent: Wed, Aug 15, 2018 10:13 am Subject: [arrl-odv:27478] Re: Potential WWV and WWVH Shutdown I first heard of this via Jim Pace from one of his constituents. Jim's guy succinctly stated a series of sensible reasons for keeping both standard broadcasts. I don't know if these are sufficient together or whether it is timely to take this on, but perhaps we can get the staff, such as our lab staff, to flesh this out and actually create a tenable argument that we can use: "These measurement systems are still being used for radio tuning, SW demonstrations, teaching Merit Badges and propagations (sic) studies." I have an inquiry in to Frank McCarthy to see if we are in time to do anything about this. First hurdle.... Chris On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:29 AM, John Bellows <jbellows@skypoint.com> wrote: Director Norton is asking the correct first question, namely , “ (Is) it in the interest of Amateur Radio and ARRL that WWV and WWVH continue to broadcast time in propagation information ? “. There is a second question that has to be asked. Are these broadcasts necessary to us amateurs or a simply a convenience? If the time and propagation information and frequency standards are available from other sources, do we really want to spend political capital on fighting this decision? I too rely on WWV as a standard occasionally. I do it primarily because listening to the beat of the tone brings back fond memories of my early days as a ham. Generally I rely on other source for the time and propagation information. Others may use it more extensively and find it necessary. As Chris notes the real question is should this be a signature advocacy issue for ARRL? 73, Jay, K0QB Sent from my iPad On Aug 15, 2018, at 12:13 AM, Richard J. Norton <richardjnorton@gmail.com> wrote: Is it in the interests of Amateur Radio and the ARRL that WWV and WWVH continue to broadcast time and propagation information? As shown on https://www.nist.gov/director/fy-2019-presidential-budget-request-summary/fu... and even on http://www.arrl.org/news/nist-fy-2019-budget-would-eliminate-wwv-and-wwvh , it looks like there is a significant chance of them shutting down. There is support among the Amateur Radio community to keep them operating. I propose we send Congress correspondence indicating our support for maintaining operations. This might be accomplished using our lobbying firm. 73, Dick Norton, N6AA _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv -- Christopher D. Imlay Booth, Freret & Imlay, LLC 14356 Cape May Road Silver Spring, Maryland 20904-6011 (301) 384-5525 telephone (301) 384-6384 facsimile W3KD@ARRL.ORG _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv