I’ll be happy to see what Chris comes up with.
Dave
From: Widin, Gregory, K0GW
On Behalf Of G Widin
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 7:35 AM
To: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ
Cc: Imlay, Chris, W3KD; arrl-odv
Subject: Re: [arrl-odv:22425] Re: Symbol rate FAQ
Having thought about this question a while, I believe Chris has surfaced some questions that pop up in the symbol rate debate, and that we must somehow address. On the other hand, Dave is certainly right that
these issues are not strictly speaking about the petition. Nonetheless, they continue to be raised in the overall discussion about symbol rate.
I suggest that a step toward resolving this would be to ask Chris to draft one or two additional FAQs that would address the points he has raised, at the same time clarifying that they are about band planning and other mode allocations,
not the petition per se. These two clarifications have some potential, for those willing to read and understand them, of clarifying what the petition is all about.
73,
Greg, K0GW
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ <dsumner@arrl.org> wrote:
Chris, I understand your point but I think the Board addressed that concern separately in Minute
47 with its charge to the HF Band Planning Committee. Raising it in the context of the rulemaking proceeding would perpetuate the misconception that it is related to Part 97, which it is not.
Rick Roderick isn’t letting any grass grow under his feet; the HF Band Planning Committee is holding
its first teleconference next week.
Dave K1ZZ
From: Imlay, Chris, W3KD
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 4:38 PM
To: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ; arrl-odv
Subject: Re: [arrl-odv:22418] Symbol rate FAQ
Dave, having just seen this, it strikes me that it might benefit from the addition of a point that addresses the fundamental
objection that we hear over and over: which is the assumption that the Committee didn't consider the cumulative effect on CW, RTTY and narrow bandwidth data emissions from a plethora of new, 2.8 kilohertz data stations. I realize that a response to that objection calls
for speculation on both sides of the argument, but to my mind there is not much benefit in a FAQ that doesn't get to what the vocal minority of objectors are actually concerned about. We might note that any future crowding of the RTTY/data subbands is handled
by voluntary band planning.
There is the corollary suggestion that is also heard repeatedly from objectors that such wider bandwidth data emissions
should be relegated to the phone/image subbands; The response to which is that such a fundamental reconfiguration of the HF bands WOULD constitute a broad-based endorsement of regulation by bandwidth, a subject with far more ramifications than are contained
within the much more limited RM-11708.
73, Chris W3KD
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ, K1ZZ <dsumner@arrl.org>
To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@arrl.org>
Sent: Thu, Feb 6, 2014 2:23 pm
Subject: [arrl-odv:22418] Symbol rate FAQ
Here is the symbol rate FAQ that I propose to post in accordance with Minute 51 of the January Board Meeting. Suggestions
for additions and clarifications are welcome.
I want to acknowledge Brennan Price’s considerable contribution to the FAQ, without which it would not yet be ready
for your perusal. Both of us had to overcome our usual inclination to go into great detail when just a simple explanation is called for.
73,
Dave Sumner, K1ZZ
Frequently Asked Questions about the ARRL “Symbol Rate” petition, RM-11708
Q: Why did the ARRL think the petition to eliminate regulation by symbol rate was needed?
A: HF data emissions are now limited to symbol rates that are based on the long-obsolete technology of the early
telephone modems. Regulation by symbol rate is not appropriate for present and future generations of digital data modes; it prohibits the use of some new, efficient modes while not preventing the introduction of digital data modes with much wider bandwidths
than are now in use.
Q: The petition proposes to substitute a bandwidth limit of 2.8 kHz for the symbol rate limits – why 2.8 kHz and
not some other figure?
A: It accommodates the digital data modes that are now in widespread use while limiting future development to the
bandwidth of an SSB transceiver.
Q: Would the proposed revision have any effect on phone or image operation?
A: No. There is no proposal to revise any rule applicable to the phone and image subbands.
Q: Would the proposed revision have any effect on digital voice operation?
A: No. The FCC rules define digital voice as phone.
Q: Does the proposed revision permit wider use of automatically controlled digital stations?
A: No. Section 97.221 would remain unchanged.
Q: Does the proposal expand the frequencies on which unspecified digital codes may be used?
A: No, although an error in the original ARRL filing suggested otherwise. As soon as it was discovered, this was
corrected through the filing of an erratum.
Q: Is the proposal a precursor to large-scale regulation by bandwidth?
A: No. The proposal is to regulate the bandwidth of a single type of emission (data) in order to narrowly and surgically
eliminate an outdated limitation in the FCC rules which precludes radio amateurs from experimenting and contributing to the radio art as fully as they should.
Posted February xx, 2014
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