Dave, I don't think we need to take the chance...and I don't think this is the image the ARRL should project by permitting the advertising in the QST... - Bill N3LLR AR>They've been around for at least a couple of years. I know we've had this AR>discussion at least once before. AR>To me it doesn't look much like a badge an authorized law enforcement AR>official would carry. If you want one that looks more authentic there's any AR>number of places you can get one. AR>I have not heard of a complaint from a law enforcement agency. AR>Dave K1ZZ AR>-----Original Message----- AR>From: jmax@attglobal.net [mailto:jmax@attglobal.net] AR>Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:22 AM AR>To: arrl-odv@listserv.arrl.org AR>Subject: [ARRL-ODV:7268] Re: Positive ID for Amateur Radio Emergency AR>I guess I'm not concerned about people spending money AR>on junk so much as I'm worried about the stray ham AR>flipping open his police-style wallet in order to crash a AR>barricade or impress his girl. This is an image problem. How AR>long have these items been offered for sale? AR>73. Jim, W6CF AR>Kay Craigie wrote: AR>> I have heard a number of complaints about this product over the years, and AR>> in my opinion the item appeals to a particular mentality ... I am trying AR>to AR>> think of a term for it that isn't way too coarse for this reflector. No AR>> success! Anyhow, it isn't a mentality we want to encourage or endorse. AR>> AR>> True, nobody has to buy this product who disapproves of it, yet I wish AR>there AR>> were a way we could drop the advertising for this phony piece of junk. 73 AR>- AR>> Kay WT3P AR>> AR>> --- AR>> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. AR>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). AR>> Version: 6.0.368 / Virus Database: 204 - Release Date: 5/29/2002