I think this is headed in the right direction, but Amazon isn’t going to do that as part of their automated transaction. Perhaps we can get the fulfillment partners for Amazon - perhaps the largest suppliers of these radios - to put a sticker on the box... “In order to avoid violating Federal law...” Maybe with an informative ARRL url... Mickey N4MB On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 3:46 PM Arthur I. Zygielbaum, K0AIZ <k0aiz@arrl.org> wrote:
As we talk about these things, is there any way to compel retailers to add a notice that a license is required for operation of amateur radio transmitters/transceivers in their advertising? How about requiring evidence of a license before sale? My guess is that this isn't possible, but fun to dream.
73, Art K0AIZ
Arthur I. Zygielbaum, K0AIZ ARRL Midwest Division Director
On 1/17/2021 1:43 PM, Bob Famiglio K3RF via arrl-odv wrote:
This kind of problem was entirely predictable and is not that new. "Considering" shutting it down temporarily is not the right response unless it was a one-off incident. Using no call signs at all is not *suspected* illegal, it just is illegal. Challenging such an exchange calmly with one's call sign and inquiry to ID shuts them up - they do not engage. But. the trustee has an obligation I would argue to shut it down or at least escalate to real time control cutting it off when no calls are used and the traffic does not sound like amateur. It is pretty obvious, I find, when they use short, tactical communications blurbs. In my area we observe multi-site, wide area systems that cover rural areas with little or no cell coverage are the repeaters illegal operators prefer and integrate into whatever plans or training activity they have. We started observing this in the EPA and SNJ areas some time ago, unrelated to the present issues, and I have mentioned it here.
I am also concerned that many repeater operators do not even have "in band" basic control over their systems. They have to take tedious steps to shut off a system. Could not shut it off without a field trip to the site. Once in a while I get a call from a repeater group asking I get involved in "curing" an illegal user problem they have (not related to present problem). The answer to my advice to control it off for a bit each time with at least several deputized control ops is telling. Illegal operator groups will switch to something else if they observe unreliability because someone is listening and controlling use. They must hate that. But many clubs ask- how can we do that each time without driving to the repeater site? That lack of any real control "on and off" is not legal of course. All the Kenwood repeaters (ham popular TKR and NXR series) I own ship with basic controls like that built in and even suppress the DTMF on the output to make it more secure. You might be surprised how many hams actually do not know they are required to have remote control or at least direct control over their repeater.
I also suspect the authorities will now by watching the appropriate spectrum for use in troubled areas like DC, whether simplex or pirating a system without consent. Let's hope they and the press do not draw the wrong conclusions about those "hams". I will wager they will but will hope I am wrong.
*Bob Famiglio, K3RF*
On 1/17/2021 11:56 AM, *Michael Ritz wrote*:
*I read a Facebook post this morning from a ham in Idaho that stated they are considering shutting down one of the two meter repeaters there because of the sudden increase of suspected unlicensed activity. (No callsigns being used). *
73; Mike W7VO
On 01/17/2021 8:31 AM Bob Famiglio, K3RF via arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> wrote:
And as we discussed as a concern earlier in the week, even the FCC statement conflates our part 97 amateur service with all the other part 95 personal radio services. The statement reinforces the idea that the public sees all those personal radios as Ham radios. What’s worse, it suggests that all amateur radio use would automatically be by licensed hams operating those radios illegally. I suspect most users in any incident will be non-licensed operators or if licensed otherwise (any radio service) will not be announcing any proper call sign and therefore operating as unlicensed. Not much we can do except educate the public consumer of such generalized or partially misleading information, even though such statements may have been innocently issued to the public.
*Bob Famiglio, K3RF*
*Vice Director - ARRL Atlantic Division*
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*From:* arrl-odv *On Behalf Of *n2cop@ec.rr.com *Sent:* Sunday, January 17, 2021 10:54 AM *To:* 'ODV' <arrl-odv@arrl.org> <arrl-odv@arrl.org> *Subject:* [arrl-odv:31734] FCC Issues Statement Against Illegal Use of Ham Radio
The FCC released this statement Sunday morning. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-17/lin-manuel-miranda-joins-...
The board was wise in developing and having a similar statement already prepared.
*FCC Warns About Use of Ham Radio to Commit Crimes (10:23 a.m.)*
Licensed amateur and personal radio services shouldn’t be used to coordinate criminal acts, the FCC’s Enforcement Bureau warned after reports that some people were looking to radios as an alternative to social media platforms, which are being monitored by law enforcement following the deadly Jan. 6 raid on the U.S. Capitol.
“The Bureau reminds amateur licensees that they are prohibited from transmitting ‘communications intended to facilitate a criminal act’ or ‘messages encoded for the purpose of obscuring their meaning,” the agency said in a statement Sunday.
The licensees, which would include Citizens Band radios, Family Radio Service walkie-talkies, and General Mobile Radio Service, would face fines, seizure of their equipment and possible criminal prosecution.
73 de Bill Morine, N2COP
Vice Director – Roanoke Division
*Representing ARRL members in North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia and West Virginia*
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