For the record, the status of the host of the non-ARRL reflector, which Director Norton has now clarified, does not affect the recommendations in my e-mail message of earlier this week.
73, Chris W3KD
-----Original Message-----
From: richardjnorton@gmail.com
To: arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org
Sent: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 1:28 PM
Subject: [arrl-odv:15381] 3 Months or 3 Minutes, $$ or $0 ??
ODjr Reflector
I hope that existence of the ODjr reflector at least raises some
interest into what we are getting and what we are paying for it, with
respect to ARRL E-mail reflectors.
I set the ODjr reflector up in less than 3 minutes. The cost to the
ARRL for the reflector is zero.
The individual that hosted the ODjr reflector was mischaracterized
here as being "a private individual not associated with or employed by
ARRL." Actually he has been an unpaid consultant to the League for
some time. The ARRL has reimbursed his airfare costs on trips to
Newington. As an aside, the ARRL even shortchanged him by not paying
for one of the trips apparently due to some foul up in the
reimbursement process, which in spite of that, he continues to assist
us.
He provided the League with the system and all the software to receive
contest logs electronically. He provides a computer, located in
California, that stores copies, on each of two hard drives, of every
contest log submitted to the League. ARRL's log-checkers use his
computer to receive log information. The logs are also stored in
Newington.
He did receive $2000 last year, (with a accompanying 1099) which he
used to buy a new computer for League contests.
He is not "a private individual not associated with or employed by ARRL."
ODV Reflector
The ODV reflector started having difficulties with messages from users
of Google's G-Mail in January. The problem made it impossible for 20%
of the Board to communicate ideas without the content being
overwhelmed by the framework in which they were received.
It has taken almost 3 months for this to be fixed. And it was finally
fixed two days after the announcement of ODjr.
The ARRL is paying money to operate the ODV reflector, I suspect both
in software costs, employee expenses, and it appears, to an outside
vendor.
Prior to sending my second test message last night, I received a
message from Richard Pendelton of "Interbridge" telling me that he
had apparently fixed the server. So, we now see that the ARRL-ODV
reflector is also apparently hosted off-site.
I guess that is acceptable, because we are paying money for it.
Summary
Case 1 - Unacceptable -Bad
3 minutes
Zero cost
Unpaid consultant
Case 2 - Present Practice - Good
3 months
Cost
Outside vendor
On SPAM blacklists (more about this later)
In response to an E-mail sent to me, I guess I'm now supposed to
apologize for doing something that "represents divisiveness and
unwillingness to work within our establish (sic) way of doing
business."
73,
Dick Norton, N6AA
For Vice directors: ODjr was a reflector that I set up with a three
minute telephone call. It contains the officers and directors. It has
not been used, and likely will not since the ODV reflector apparently
now works.