Sean, Tnx for your note; however, I apparently did not state my question very well. I' trying again. As background, I've been familiar with N4XM's misguided crusade since I met him after I first became a director. I've been equally unsuccessful in dissuading him from pursuing his claims. Telling him "Cabrillo didn't do it" is the ultimate backup position available to me at this moment, but I expect that saying this to him will be just as unconvincing as everything you, others at HQ, the GLD CAC representative, fellow contesters and I have said before. What I'd like to do is to tell him just what it was that caused the error. For example, it was human error, or an error in the non-Cabrillo contest program, or what? What caused the problem or, alternately, where in the processing of submitted logs did the problem occur? I'm not looking for an individual's name. Admittedly, telling Paul what caused the problem is unlikely to cause him to see the light, but it most likely will prove useful in blunting his effort to recruit others into his anti-Cabrillo position. Providing logical, accurate information in response to his widely distributed misinformation appears to be useful in preventing him from building a following. This has proven effective, previously. Tnx, 73, Jim Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director ARRL Great Lakes Division 5065 Bethany Rd. Mason, OH 45040 E-mail: k8je@arrl.org, Tel.: 513-459-1661 ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio -----Original Message----- From: Kutzko, Sean, KX9X [mailto:kx9x@arrl.org] Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:51 PM To: Weaver, Jim K8JE (DIR, GL); Kramer, Harold, WJ1B; arrl-odv Cc: Johnston, Gary (Vice Dir,GL) Subject: RE: [arrl-odv:18039] IARU 2008 Announcement Hi Jim- Cabrillo is merely a text format (i.e. - arrangement of text on each line) that determines how contest QSO data is laid out. Contrary to N4XM's belief, Cabrillo itself does not do any scoring of a log whatsoever; the adjudication process is handled completely by human log-checkers and their own programming of sophisticated software (not available off-the-shelf). Whether a file is in Cabrillo format or not has nothing to do with how the QSOs are checked. Numerous people over several years have attempted to explain this to N4XM, and he simply refuses to accept this explanation. 73, Sean Kutzko, KX9X Contest Branch Manager ARRL, the national association for Amateur Radio(tm) 860-594-0232 skutzko@arrl.org -----Original Message----- From: K8JE [mailto:k8je@arrl.org] Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:44 PM To: Kramer, Harold, WJ1B; arrl-odv Cc: Johnston, Gary (Vice Dir,GL); Kutzko, Sean, KX9X Subject: RE: [arrl-odv:18039] IARU 2008 Announcement Harold, Tnx for the heads up. I'd like to ask you or Sean (other?) a question concerning this and a long-standing complaint by a GLD member. The situation as you may know is that Paul Schrader, N4XM has repeatedly complained over inaccuracies he perceives in the Cabrillo system. His complain has included inaccurate scoring which, in turn, he claims is partly related to improper disallowing Qs. My question is simply how I can (or can I) explain to Paul when he approaches me that this scoring error was not the result of mishandling of log submissions by Cabrillo? I feel certain I'll soon receive a lengthy diatribe that will proclaim, "I told you so." In other words -- HELP! Tnx, Jim Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director ARRL Great Lakes Division 5065 Bethany Rd. Mason, OH 45040 E-mail: k8je@arrl.org, Tel.: 513-459-1661 ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio -----Original Message----- From: Kramer, Harold, WJ1B [mailto:wj1b@arrl.org] Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:18 PM To: arrl-odv Cc: Kutzko, Sean, KX9X Subject: [arrl-odv:18039] IARU 2008 Announcement Hi, As a head's up to everyone. This is from Sean and is self explanatory. We all feel bad about this but, as Sean has explained, we are taking preventive actions to prevent a recurrence of the situation. It is also being distributed to: The CQ-Contest email Reflector Sean's Contesting Blog on our Website The Next Edition of Ward Silver's ARRL Contest Update. 73, Harold Harold Kramer, WJ1B Chief Operating Officer ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio(tm) 860 594 0220 hkramer@arrl.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Kutzko, Sean, KX9X Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:14 PM Subject: IARU 2008 Announcement Corrections to the 2008 IARU HF World Championships Aug 21, 2009 15:01 ET Sean E. Kutzko, KX9X Since the 2008 IARU results were published, I recently received a report from a contester that some numbers didn't add up in their Log-Checking Report. After considerable review, it was determined that many calls were universally counted as "incorrect" during the log-checking process when in fact they were good calls. As a result of this discovery, we decided the best course of action was to re-score the 2008 IARU HF World Championships. The impact of this re-adjudication is relatively minor. Scores went up slightly across the board. There were no changes to the order of finish in the Top Five of any entry category except two: World Single Operator Phone Only High Power and W/VE Phone Only High Power. Some Top Ten standings have been affected, as have a select few listings in the Continental Results and W/VE Region Box. A complete listing of corrected results can be found at: http://www.arrl.org/contests/results/ We sincerely apologize. We have a volunteer team of some of the finest contesters in the world that adjudicate our events. They and the ARRL strive to have the most accurate results in every contest we administer. However, we are human, and sometimes make mistakes, despite our best computer programs and eye for detail. We never like to see errors in our results, but we feel it is far better to acknowledge those mistakes and correct them as quickly as possible, rather than to not acknowledge the errors at all. To minimize the chances of this occurring again, we have made significant adjustments to the process by which a call is determined to be "bad." We are also adding more data checks to our quality control review. New awards certificates, where warranted, will be printed and mailed by September 1. We again apologize for the errors in the 2008 IARU results. 73, Sean Kutzko, KX9X Contest Branch Manager ARRL, the national association for Amateur Radio(tm) 860-594-0232 skutzko@arrl.org