Could, and should include CT counsel I totally agree. Yes, things have changed, and the process of finding the new balance point has been and may still be a bit rocky, Some of us, like, for example, me, are slowly coming down off the wall, though ... ;-) 73,Mikek1twf Mike Raisbeck k1twf@arrl.net -----Original Message----- From: Roderick, Rick, K5UR via arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> To: vze18vwgu <vze18vwgu@verizon.net>; arrl-odv <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Sent: Fri, Dec 7, 2018 11:14 am Subject: [arrl-odv:27739] Re: Vice Director Parity Act I support exploring this. Perhaps there could be some instances or legal considerations that would still warrant some separation, but that could be assessed during the study. Mike, I am assuming that the appointed committee could include a CT corporate attorney. Things have changed. When I got on the Board, Vice Directors did not speak unless spoken to. It was like everything went through the Director. Very tight chain of command concept. Many of you have heard me tell the story back when I was a Vice Director and was removed as a member on A&F the morning following a Thursday night informal session when from the back row I challenged John Chwat, our lobbyist at the time, when he said things were great with the FCC. George Wilson came up to me the next morning and said, "your services on A&F are no longer needed." Then I got the lecture from some directors that I was out of line. Yep, things have changed, but I can tell ya, this division that has developed is not healthy and has driven me nuts trying to work through the fights and emotions as a result. 73Rick - K5UR -----Original Message----- From: Mike Raisbeck <vze18vwgu@verizon.net> To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Sent: Fri, Dec 7, 2018 5:56 am Subject: [arrl-odv:27737] Vice Director Parity Act Hello All, As you old-timers know full well, and you newcomers will shortly learn, there has over the last several years been considerable tension over the matter of Vice Director status and access to information. This has boiled over several times. I generally find myself in the middle of these kerfulffles, which take up time that in the long run would be better spent promoting Amateur Radio. In an effort to clarify and solidify the status, I propose the motion below. If one of you (I am speaking now to Directors and Board Officers) would like to present this motion, please let me know. I will put it in a nice, tidy Word document and insert your name in the title. No charge. If there are suggestions for clarification or enhancement, please send me a note. We can work together to get this refined. Thanks and see you in January MikeK1TWFNE VD -------------------------------------------- Your-Name-Here WHEREAS the position of Vice Director has,among its purposes, to provide membership representatives read and able, at a moments notice, to take assume the control and management of the League, it shall henceforth be the policy and practice of this Board that: 1. The Vice Directors shall be considered as and treated as a class of DIrectors; and 2. All League communication and information available and accessible to Directors shall be equally available and accessible to VIce DIrectors. This includes, but is not limited to, email lists (such as OD/ODV), written material, and general corporate information, including information available by right to Directors under state or federal law; and 3. Vice Directors shall be bound by all the same rules of duty, obligation, and right as Directors, including, but not limited to, legal requirements, rights, and limitations; and 3. The President shall appoint a committee with the charter to investigate whether or not amendments to the Articles and/or Bylaws are necessary or advisable to enforce or solidify this policy. The committee shall report at the summer Board meeting, and shall, if it determines such to be advisable, present at least 60 days before that Board meeting any proposed amendments to the Articles and Bylaws to effect this policy. Mike Raisbeck k1twf@arrl.net _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv