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I can imagine the difficulties members of the E&E committee are faced with. My wording was inartful—I was referring to the balloting decision as being in left field; Dwayne’s situation was far more complex. Based upon the complaints concerning elections that I have personally received from members in my brief tenure, any decision to not take simple steps to insure members are aware they should have received a ballot and a reminder to return them would be seen very unfavorably.

I would argue that a single person appointing the E&E is far more prone to politics than the full Board electing them. At least by electing the E&E members, it is the politics of the Board rather than the politics of a single person.

Doug

K4AC

From: Cliff Ahrens [mailto:cliff.ahrens@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 11:31 AM
To: k4ac; 'G Widin'; 'arrl-odv'
Subject: RE: [arrl-odv:22868] Re: Bylaw 41 change--making E&E elected

Serving on the E&E is a challenging and difficult job.  Although I disagreed with the particular E&E decisions you mention, I would not characterize them as “left field.”  They were reasoned and defensible actions.  The present system has the protection of board review of E&E decisions.  I am concerned that electing the E&E would politicize the selection process without any measurable benefit. 

Cliff K0CA

From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of Doug Rehman
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 9:51 AM
To: 'G Widin'; 'arrl-odv'
Subject: [arrl-odv:22868] Re: Bylaw 41 change--making E&E elected

Greg:

In the past 3 months a significant amount of man-hours were lost dealing with two decisions of the E&E: notification of the membership concerning ballots (3-0) and Dwayne’s situation (2-1). Between emails, phone calls, and GoToMeeting sessions, I personally expended dozens of hours.

While Dwayne’s situation was complex, I believe that E&E could have reached the same end result as it took the entire Board to do.

The decision concerning ballot notifications was, pardon the colloquialism, just plain wrong.

By making the E&E elected, the committee will better reflect the thought process of the entire Board and thereby eliminate left field decisions that cause the entire Board to become involved in a review/repair of the situation.

E&E is perhaps the most important of the committees. Just as the EC is chosen by a plurality of the Board, the best selection of committee members for E&E would be done by a plurality of the Board.

73,

Doug

K4AC

From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of G Widin
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 10:08 AM
To: arrl-odv
Subject: [arrl-odv:22867] Bylaw 41 change--making E&E elected

Doug et al.,

What problem is being solved by making E&E elected, rather than appointed?

     Greg, K0GW