Greg, I haven't heard any invitation to this Summit?being extended to anyone at all, but that isn't saying much, Greg. I wouldn't normally hear of it unless it was in the daily releases or someone in the Wireless Bureau would call.
Cross is out of his office until Thursday so I can't ask him about it.
Chris
Christopher D. Imlay
Booth, Freret, Imlay & Tepper. P.C.
14356 Cape May Road
Silver Spring, Maryland 20904-6011
(301) 384-5525 telephone
(301) 384-6384 facsimile
W3KD(a)ARRL.ORG
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Sarratt <w4ozk(a)arrl.org>
To: 'Chris Imlay' <w3kd(a)aol.com>; 'arrl-odv' <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org>
Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2009 12:44 pm
Subject: RE: [arrl-odv:17985] Re: Fw: ARRL & EmComm
I do not see how this letter pertains to the Inappropriate Use of Amateur Radio ad-hoc committee study either, other than his view of the Dayton forum.
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Should we consider this letter from this FCC employee, official FCC statements or a stint from another ARRL member?? He talks from his FCC position and signs his FCC title to the letter.
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We should officially ask the FCC's Public Safety & Homeland Security Bureau about them, ?embarking on a new trail to help facilitate the resolution of ARS EmComm issues that involve served agencies.? Is this the FCC ARS EmComm Summit N3GQ speaks about?
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Chris,? have you or the ARRL seen an invitation to the upcoming FCC ARS EmComm Summit?
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73,
Greg Sarratt, W4OZK
From: Chris Imlay [mailto:w3kd@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 10:38 AM
To: arrl-odv
Subject: [arrl-odv:17985] Re: Fw: ARRL & EmComm
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It is worth noting that Curt Bartholomew is a staff person in the FCC's Public Safety and Homeland Security Bureau, and not in the Wireless Telecommunications Bureau. He does not have any official?involvement in rules interpretations governing the Amateur Service, which is the job of the Mobility Division of the Wireless Bureau, and?Bartholomew is therefore expressing his own opinions and not those of the Commission.
I believe that his remarks, though candid and doubtless sincere, are not prudent, frankly, given his position.
73, Chris W3KD
Christopher D. Imlay
Booth, Freret, Imlay & Tepper. P.C.
14356 Cape May Road
Silver Spring, Maryland 20904-6011
(301) 384-5525 telephone
(301) 384-6384 facsimile
W3KD(a)ARRL.ORG
-----Original Message-----
From: Mickey Cox <mcoxk5mc(a)bellsouth.net>
To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org>
Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2009 12:57 am
Subject: [arrl-odv:17984] Fw: ARRL & EmComm
ODV,?
?
FYI. Steve Waterman (K4CJX) has assured me that Curt Bartholomew (N3GQ) at the FCC wanted the entire Board to read his comments below. As you can also read below, I have already forwarded N3GQ's comments to the ad-hoc committee recently authorized by the Board and appointed by W5ZN.?
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BTW, I do not personally know N3GQ, but it is my understanding that K4CJX and N3GQ know each other fairly well. I was included on these emails because K4CJX is an Assistant Director for the Delta Division and Steve knows that I am trying to raise the Board's attention to EmComm related issues.?
?
73, K5MC?
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----- Original Message ----- From: "K4CJX" <k4cjx(a)comcast.net>?
To: "'Mickey Cox'" <mcoxk5mc(a)bellsouth.net>?
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:24 PM?
Subject: RE: ARRL & EmComm?
?
> Mickey,?
>?
> That is why it was re-written rather than having the more direct and?
> "personal" view distributed.?
>?
>?
> Steve?
>?
>?
> -----Original Message-----?
> From: Mickey Cox [mailto:mcoxk5mc@bellsouth.net]?
> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:08 PM?
> To: K4CJX?
> Subject: Re: ARRL & EmComm?
>?
> Steve,?
>?
> If you are sure that Bart wants me to do that, I will forward his message?
> below to the entire Board via the ODV reflector.?
>?
> 73, K5MC?
>?
>?
> ----- Original Message -----?
> From: "K4CJX" <k4cjx(a)comcast.net>?
> To: "'Mickey Cox'" <mcoxk5mc(a)bellsouth.net>?
> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 7:24 PM?
> Subject: RE: ARRL & EmComm?
>?
>?
>> Purdy, please,?
>>?
>> Put it on the ODV Reflector??
>>?
>> Steve?
>>?
>>?
>> -----Original Message-----?
>> From: Mickey Cox [mailto:mcoxk5mc@bellsouth.net]?
>> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 7:20 PM?
>> To: Curt Bartholomew; K4CJX?
>> Cc: garystratton(a)cmaaccess.com; n3kn(a)arrl.org; Chris Imlay; >> k1zz(a)arrl.org;?
>> David Woolweaver; k5uz(a)arrl.org; w5zn(a)arrl.org?
>> Subject: Re: ARRL & EmComm?
>>?
>> Bart N3GQ,?
>>?
>> Thanks very much for your message below.?
>>?
>> ARRL President Joel Harrison W5ZN has just appointed an ad-hoc committee?
>> to?
>> prepare guidelines for use by the amateur community and others to >> identify?
>> inappropriate use of amateur radio. This committee will present its?
>> findings to the ARRL Executive Committee within the next 30 days. I am?
>> taking the liberty to forward your message below to each member of the?
>> ad-hoc committee as well as to President Harrison. For your information,?
>> the ad-hoc committee members are as follows:?
>>?
>> First Vice President Kay Craigie, N3KN - Chair West Gulf Division >> Director?
>> David Woolweaver, K5RAV Delta Division Vice Director David Norris, K5UZ?
>> Executive Vice President Dave Sumner, K1ZZ General Counsel Chris Imlay,?
>> W3KD?
>>?
>> Thanks again and 73,?
>>?
>> Mickey Cox, K5MC?
>> Delta Division Director?
>>?
>>?
>> ----- Original Message -----?
>> From: "Curt Bartholomew" <Curt.Bartholomew(a)fcc.gov>?
>> To: "K4CJX" <k4cjx(a)comcast.net>; "MICKEY COX" <mcoxk5mc(a)bellsouth.net>?
>> Cc: <garystratton(a)cmaaccess.com>; "Curt Bartholomew"?
>> <Curt.Bartholomew(a)fcc.gov>?
>> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:49 PM?
>> Subject: RE: ARRL & EmComm?
>>?
>>?
>> Greetings, Gentlemen.?
>>?
>> It is indeed great to see the passion you display in support of providing?
>> the American people with volunteer emergency communications during their?
>> greatest time of need.?
>>?
>> While it is a concern that there is the recent appearance that the ARRL?
>> BOD?
>> has relegated EmComm to a low priority, I am not discouraged and you?
>> should?
>> not be either. Since 9/11/01, the ARRL has made significant strides in?
>> improving ARS EmComm with its courses, books, CDs, equipment caches,?
>> hiring?
>> an emergency manager, and other actions. The current situation may only?
>> be?
>> a temporary misunderstanding or lack of knowledge of today's increasingly?
>> tense spectrum situation.?
>>?
>> Both the FCC and NTIA are continually being pressured for more spectrum?
>> from?
>>?
>> commercial interests. The continued explosion of cell phone and other?
>> wireless device usage has companies scrambling for what spectrum they can?
>> get. Most people do not get to see this situation first hand -- we see >> it?
>> often at the FCC. No service regulated by the FCC or NTIA is immune from?
>> being raided; so every service has to be on its guard and be able to?
>> justify?
>>?
>> its frequency allocations.?
>>?
>> We at the FCC's Public Safety & Homeland Security Bureau are embarking on?
>> a?
>> new trail to help facilitate the resolution of ARS EmComm issues that?
>> involve served agencies. However, we only want to be involved where the?
>> need is apparent and asked for. We have to be respectful of States'?
>> rights,?
>>?
>> contributions of individuals and organizations, and the ability of?
>> volunteers to provide the services needed in emergencies and disasters.?
>> This?
>>?
>> outreach has not been done before in anyone's memory who still works?
>> there.?
>>?
>> The more the ARS is viewed by the American public as a source of >> emergency?
>> communications and public service, the more likely it is that the ARS >> will?
>> be able to keep its frequency allocations, especially in the VHF and >> above?
>> bands. Although since 1970 I have enjoyed the other "hobby" aspects of?
>> ham?
>> radio, such as DXing, contesting, rag chewing, equipment building, fox?
>> hunting, and experimenting with the new digital modes, none of them have?
>> captured the American public's attention as something they need more than?
>> their plethora of wireless devices -- except public service and emergency?
>> communications.?
>>?
>> We should appreciate that the ARRL spends a lot of time dealing with ARES?
>> personnel issues, which may by association make EmComm not their favorite?
>> topic to deal with. When I was preparing my ECAP program (Emergency?
>> Communications Accreditation Program) at FEMA HQ in 2002 and 2003, I >> spoke?
>> with then ARRL president Jim Haynie at length about it. He mentioned >> that?
>> he and the ARRL staff have had to spend an incredible amount of time?
>> dealing?
>>?
>> with personality issues and other related issues that took time away from?
>> their other duties. He suggested that we dissolve both the ARES and RACES?
>> services and start up a joint service. Those of us who have served as?
>> ECs,?
>> DECs, ASMs, and in other EmComm positions can readily understand that?
>> particular frustration. However, as a volunteer service, it is not >> unlike?
>> the other volunteer services; in that there are clashes in personalities?
>> that are destructive to the mission. It comes with the territory. We?
>> have?
>> to learn to get along better for the good of the service.?
>>?
>> Regarding paid employee status, there are clearly some misunderstandings?
>> circulating, and it should be a non-issue. For example, at the Dayton?
>> Hamvention, a question answered by Bill Cross of the FCC's Wireless?
>> Telecommunications Bureau regarding paid duty status was answered?
>> officially?
>>?
>> a few years ago, and I believe he may have misunderstood the question?
>> because the acoustics were not great in that room. Here is the answer to?
>> that question, that is still in effect, as I understood it:?
>>?
>> In its Report and Order in WT Docket 04-140, the FCC stated, "Section?
>> 97.113?
>>?
>> does not prohibit amateur radio operators who are emergency personnel?
>> engaged in disaster relief from using the amateur service bands while in >> a?
>> paid duty status. These individuals are not receiving compensation for?
>> transmitting amateur service communications; rather, they are receiving?
>> compensation for services related to their disaster relief duties and in?
>> their capacities as emergency personnel."?
>>?
>> You should also know that questions relating to emergency communications,?
>> public safety, and homeland security in general are now being answered by?
>> the (almost 3-year-old) FCC's Public Safety and Homeland Security Bureau,?
>> in?
>>?
>> coordination with the other FCC bureaus.?
>>?
>> The number of EmComm issues in need of addressing may be significant, but?
>> we?
>>?
>> won't know until we get an inventory from all concerned. We know that we?
>> will not resolve them overnight, and they do not all lend themselves to?
>> needing assistance from the federal government. However, it is >> imperative?
>> that the dialogue to address them with all served agencies and concerned?
>> parties be conducted in an orderly, open, and inclusive manner for the?
>> benefit of the served agencies, the citizens they serve, and of course >> the?
>> EmComm operators themselves. It is my hope that our upcoming FCC ARS?
>> EmComm?
>>?
>> Summit will help with the dialogue and perhaps with some issue >> resolution.?
>> Together we can all make this happen. It's worth the effort.?
>>?
>> "Keep your family safe, your batteries charged, and your Go-Kit ready."?
>>?
>> -Bart?
>>?
>> Curt R. Bartholomew, N3GQ?
>>?
>> FCC/PSHSB Senior Emergency Manager?
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