February 2006 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[arrl-odv:13766] Re: HUH?
by W3KD＠aol.com 23 Feb '06

23 Feb '06

In a message dated 2/22/2006 8:22:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, walstrom(a)mchsi.com writes: Is he the same disgruntled former employee who petitioned the FCC to ignore our petition on regulation by bandwidth before it arrived at the FCC? Yes, he is, Wade. Chris

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[arrl-odv:13765] Re: HUH?
by Wade 23 Feb '06

23 Feb '06

Is he the same disgruntled former employee who petitioned the FCC to ignore our petition on regulation by bandwidth before it arrived at the FCC? 73, Wade W0EJ -----Original Message----- From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ [mailto:dsumner@arrl.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 8:26 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13750] Re: HUH? Paul is among other things a disgruntled former employee. He worked for us briefly in Washington in 1985. It wasn't a good match. According to a cursory check of the membership records, he has been a member for a grand total of 4 years (although there might have been a few more years of membership in the more distant past) and has never made a voluntary contribution. Dave K1ZZ -----Original Message----- From: Wade [mailto:walstrom@mchsi.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 12:10 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13745] Re: HUH? I was scratching my head on that one for a bit too and then realized he thinks we are not giving enough attention to AM in our publications and QST. I took it as a thinly veiled threat that if we do not give AM the attention he feels it deserves, we may not get the financial support from him we have enjoyed (I am assuming there was some) in the past. I think this is Bill's problem. That's my translation. 73, Wade W0EJ -----Original Message----- From: Jim Weaver, K8JE [mailto:k8je@arrl.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 2:42 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13741] HUH? To put it in the very best of Midwestern vernacular, my reaction to WA3VJB's declaration of interdependence is . . . huh? Am I unusually dense today or has he chosen a very obtuse way to say we shouldn't expect the members to donate unless we are willing to pony up ourselves? Jim Weaver, K8JE Director, ARRL Great Lakes Division Chairman, ARRL Legislative Action Committee 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org <mailto:k8je@arrl.org> ; Tel: 513-459-0142 ARRL, the Reason Amateur Radio is! Members, the Reason ARRL is!

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[arrl-odv:13764] Re: Correspondence from Outside Your Division
by w6rod＠comcast.net 23 Feb '06

23 Feb '06

Ham Radio Think Tank. Now there's a term that applies to some of the hams I had discussions with in the past. My usual response was "What the hell were you THINKING, but TANKS anway!!" Rod -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Ned Stearns" <aa7a(a)cox.net> I do believe this individual is with the Ham Radio Think Tank. Treat accordingly. Ned AA7A ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Weaver, K8JE To: arrl-odv Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:12 PM Subject: [arrl-odv:13743] Re: Correspondence from Outside Your Division Just to clarify, I for one had no intention of responding to Courson. Im still trying to figure out (using as little energy as possible) the presumed logic behind his convoluted message. Jim Weaver, K8JE Director, ARRL Great Lakes Division Chairman, ARRL Legislative Action Committee 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org; Tel: 513-459-0142 ARRL, the Reason Amateur Radio is! Members, the Reason ARRL is! -----Original Message----- From: Joel Harrison [mailto:w5zn@arrl.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 4:25 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13742] Correspondence from Outside Your Division Some of you (maybe all of you in different formats) have received an email from Paul Courson, WA3VJB. I just want to restate that none of you owe Mr. Courson a response save Director Bill Edgar, as Mr. Courson is a member (until Feb 28, 2006) of the Atlantic Division. Response to correspondence from members (or non-members) outside your division can complicate things for the representative director, and it has been a very long standing position of the board, even in the days of "regular mail" before mass communication email arrived, that these matters are to be left to the appropriate Director. Bill can do as he so chooses with the email. Thank you for your understanding. 73 Joel W5ZN

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RE: [arrl-odv:13749] Regulation By Bandwidth, RM-11360; ARRL as-filed Reply Comments
by Jim Weaver, K8JE 22 Feb '06

22 Feb '06

Very well done and said! Jim Weaver, K8JE Director, ARRL Great Lakes Division Chairman, ARRL Legislative Action Committee 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org; Tel: 513-459-0142 ARRL, the Reason Amateur Radio is! Members, the Reason ARRL is! -----Original Message----- From: W3KD(a)aol.com [mailto:W3KD@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:15 AM To: arrl-odv Cc: n1rl(a)arrl.org Subject: [arrl-odv:13749] Regulation By Bandwidth, RM-11360; ARRL as-filed Reply Comments Greetings. After extensive review by the Executive Committee members and some good edits from the entire EC and especially from Messr's Sumner and Rinaldo, we filed last evening the attached reply comments in response to those 900 plus comments on our Bandwidth petition. Most of the comments filed were negative with respect to the ARRL Petition, but they were polarized in one direction or another (i.e. "make no change in regulation by emission mode" versus "don't have any subband regulation"), putting our petition in the "reasonable middle ground" category. Here they are. Incidentally, the voluminous comments filed in response to the "Communications Think Tank" petition, RM-11305 were even more negative than those filed in response to ours.... See for yourself at the ECFS search page on the FCC web site. 73, Chris W3KD

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[arrl-odv:13761] Re: Regulation By Bandwidth, RM-11360; ARRL as-filed ...
by W3KD＠aol.com 22 Feb '06

22 Feb '06

In a message dated 2/22/2006 10:40:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, dsumner(a)arrl.org writes: > > Sometimes Chris is a bit...umm...strident in his first draft and I get to > persuade him to tone it down. I didn't get that opportunity this time. > > Dave K1ZZ > HMMMM. Never heard that about BPL filings! Chris W3KD :-))

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[arrl-odv:13760] Re: HUH?
by W3KD＠aol.com 22 Feb '06

22 Feb '06

In a message dated 2/22/2006 10:00:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, dsumner(a)arrl.org writes: > > You can blame me for not preventing his boss in DC from hiring him in the > first place. But it's all ancient history. > > Dave > Yeah, but I had to share office space with him for a few months or so! Old memories die hard. Chris

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[arrl-odv:13759] Re: Letter Head
by Brian Mileshosky 22 Feb '06

22 Feb '06

Lisa -- Thanks for your hard work. I'm CCing this to ODV in case anyone else might be interested. Might there be an electronic version of the letterhead available which we can type directly onto (like a Word template with all the letterhead graphics)? This way we can print our own letters (including the letterhead) as needed, and it would also allow us to electronically store the letter for future reference or for distribution via email. I certainly don't plan to be mailing a ton of letters, but the convenience of an electronic version would certainly be nice for the few I do manage to crank out. Thoughts? 73, Brian, N5ZGT On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Kustosik, Lisa, KA1UFZ wrote: > Good Morning. > > Yesterday I mailed 100 sheets of the new letterhead to each of you > mailed by 1st class. If you think you will be needing more please let > me know. > > 73, > Lisa, KA1UFZ

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[arrl-odv:13758] Re: Regulation By Bandwidth, RM-11360; ARRL as-filed Reply Comments
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 22 Feb '06

22 Feb '06

I have already said this to the EC but I want to repeat it for ODV. Chris got the tone of the filing exactly right. The contributions the rest of us made were simply fine-tuning. Sometimes Chris is a bit...umm...strident in his first draft and I get to persuade him to tone it down. I didn't get that opportunity this time. Dave K1ZZ -----Original Message----- From: Tom Frenaye [mailto:frenaye@pcnet.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:24 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13755] Re: Regulation By Bandwidth, RM-11360; ARRL as-filed Reply Comments At 09:15 AM 2/22/2006, W3KD wrote: >Greetings. After extensive review by the Executive Committee members and some good edits from the entire EC and especially from Messr's Sumner and Rinaldo, we filed last evening the attached reply comments in response to those 900 plus comments on our Bandwidth petition. You and your helpers really do have silver tongues. Really impressed with the way the reply comments read. -- Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[arrl-odv:13757] Re: Letter Head
by Jim Weaver, K8JE 22 Feb '06

22 Feb '06

Tnx, Lisa. If I need more, I'll pick it up when I come for the A&F meeting. Jim Weaver, K8JE Director, ARRL Great Lakes Division Chairman, ARRL Legislative Action Committee 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org; Tel: 513-459-0142 ARRL, the Reason Amateur Radio is! Members, the Reason ARRL is! -----Original Message----- From: Kustosik, Lisa, KA1UFZ [mailto:lkustosik@arrl.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:10 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13754] Letter Head Good Morning. Yesterday I mailed 100 sheets of the new letterhead to each of you mailed by 1st class. If you think you will be needing more please let me know. 73, Lisa, KA1UFZ

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[arrl-odv:13756] Re: HUH?
by Jim Weaver, K8JE 22 Feb '06

22 Feb '06

Dave, Well, we live in an age were it seems someone (else) must be blamed for anything "bad" that happens, so this means we need to find a scapegoat, doesn't it? ;-) Jim Weaver, K8JE Director, ARRL Great Lakes Division Chairman, ARRL Legislative Action Committee 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org; Tel: 513-459-0142 ARRL, the Reason Amateur Radio is! Members, the Reason ARRL is! -----Original Message----- From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ [mailto:dsumner@arrl.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:00 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13753] Re: HUH? You can blame me for not preventing his boss in DC from hiring him in the first place. But it's all ancient history. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jim Weaver, K8JE [mailto:k8je@arrl.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:55 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13752] Re: HUH? Oh, so what you are saying, Dave, is that we can put all the blame for this one on you for not keeping him "gruntled?!" HI! Jim Weaver, K8JE Director, ARRL Great Lakes Division Chairman, ARRL Legislative Action Committee 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org; Tel: 513-459-0142 ARRL, the Reason Amateur Radio is! Members, the Reason ARRL is! -----Original Message----- From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ [mailto:dsumner@arrl.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:26 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13750] Re: HUH? Paul is among other things a disgruntled former employee. He worked for us briefly in Washington in 1985. It wasn't a good match. According to a cursory check of the membership records, he has been a member for a grand total of 4 years (although there might have been a few more years of membership in the more distant past) and has never made a voluntary contribution. Dave K1ZZ -----Original Message----- From: Wade [mailto:walstrom@mchsi.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 12:10 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13745] Re: HUH? I was scratching my head on that one for a bit too and then realized he thinks we are not giving enough attention to AM in our publications and QST. I took it as a thinly veiled threat that if we do not give AM the attention he feels it deserves, we may not get the financial support from him we have enjoyed (I am assuming there was some) in the past. I think this is Bill's problem. That's my translation. 73, Wade W0EJ -----Original Message----- From: Jim Weaver, K8JE [mailto:k8je@arrl.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 2:42 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13741] HUH? To put it in the very best of Midwestern vernacular, my reaction to WA3VJB's declaration of interdependence is . . . huh? Am I unusually dense today or has he chosen a very obtuse way to say we shouldn't expect the members to donate unless we are willing to pony up ourselves? Jim Weaver, K8JE Director, ARRL Great Lakes Division Chairman, ARRL Legislative Action Committee 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org; Tel: 513-459-0142 ARRL, the Reason Amateur Radio is! Members, the Reason ARRL is!

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