September 2005 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[arrl-odv:12943] Re: CONFIDENTIAL - Harrison/Imlay FCC Meeting
by n5ok.ok＠att.net 04 Sep '05

04 Sep '05

Joel, I'm looking forward to your expanded versions of options 2 and 3. I personally don't see any need to persue the Morse testing issue further. I think we need to put all our eggs in the entry level license basket. Coy -- ARRL West Gulf Division Director Coy Day, N5OK 20685 SW 29th St Union City, OK 73090 n5ok(a)arrl.org 405-483-5632

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[arrl-odv:12942] Re: CONFIDENTIAL - Harrison/Imlay FCC Meeting
by K5ur＠aol.com 04 Sep '05

04 Sep '05

Joel: Good job. You and Chris were prepared. Thank you. 1.) Page 1, 5th paragraph - FCC's reference to 200k hams. That reply was typical FCC pooey. A good indication of their motivation, perhaps, .... numbers. Like you said, that does not equate to better efficiency of spectrum. 2.) Page 2, 2nd paragraph - FCC's comment about 300k Techs to upgrade. No way. I'm not sure it will even be the 100k you mentioned. 3.) Page 2, 2nd paragraph - FCC was not thinking long term. I agree. Obvious they weren't, given their responses. 4.) Page 2, 3rd paragraph - Good counterpoint ya'll made. 5.) Page 3, 1st and 2nd full paragraphs - Another good point, but doesn't it make you scratch your head wondering why they don't get it. Did I ever tell you what I think of the FCC? 6.) Page 3, 4th full paragraph - Regarding thanking Cross about 40 mtrs, oh, I'll bet you hated doing that. (hi) 7.) Page 4 - I prefer Option 3. Not option 1. Not option 2. No blend between options 2 and 3. Our proposal was a good proposal. It was the right proposal. This is important. We should do a full court press. Again, thanks to you and Chris for taking the time to prepare and meet with the FCC. Good job. 73, Rick - K5UR In a message dated 9/3/2005 9:31:18 AM Central Standard Time, w5zn(a)arrl.org writes: The attached report is an ARRL Board Confidential matter. It is not to be distributed to anyone other than ARRL Officers, Directors, and Vice Directors. As previously communicated to you, Chris Imlay and I met with Mike Wilhelm at FCC on Monday, August 29 to discuss NPRM 05-235. My report is attached in Adobe Acrobat PDF format. If you cannot open this document, please let me know. 73 Joel W5ZN

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[arrl-odv:12941] Re: CONFIDENTIAL - Harrison/Imlay FCC Meeting
by Joel Harrison 04 Sep '05

04 Sep '05

Tnx input, Jim. 73 Joel W5ZN -----Original Message----- From: Jim K8JE [mailto:K8JE@arrl.org] Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 9:41 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: RE: [arrl-odv:12935] Re: CONFIDENTIAL - Harrison/Imlay FCC Meeting I fully concur with Wade. To me and the members in the GLD who seem to care at all, Option #1 is not even on the books. Option #3 is the most preferable simply because it is in my opinion an "all-win," "no-lose" proposition with current and potential members. The closer we approach using Option #1, the more fuel we feed on the fire of "the ARRL is moving to do away with Morse code" camp. The downsizing (in our draft bandwidth proposal) of specific CW allocations is just one example the uninitiated-but-verbally-active site as our loss of support for CW. Full-blown action toward maintaining Morse for Extra (only) should be a safe position to adopt. The No-Coders won't be churned up over this effort and the Know-Coders will love us for it. Right on, Wade! Jim Jim Weaver, K8JE Director, Great Lakes Division ARRL; http://www.arrl.org/ 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 Tel.: 513-459-0142; E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org ARRL: The reason Amateur Radio Is! MEMBERS: The reason ARRL Is!

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[arrl-odv:12940] Re: CONFIDENTIAL - Harrison/Imlay FCC Meeting
by Joel Harrison 04 Sep '05

04 Sep '05

QSL Bob....tnx input. 73 Joel W5ZN -----Original Message----- From: Bob Vallio [mailto:rbvallio@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 7:28 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: CONFIDENTIAL - Harrison/Imlay FCC Meeting I believe that Wade has suggested the correct message to send to those bozos. 73, Bob -- W6RGG On 9/3/05, walstrom(a)mchsi.com <walstrom(a)mchsi.com> wrote: I do not like Option 1 at all. I don't think it will send the message you suggest, but would be another indication of us becoming irrelevant. These clowns are too enamored with themselves to figure out a no-response means we think they are so far off base to elicit a response. I favor something between 2 and 3 and the closer to 3 the better. 73, Wade W0EJ > > The attached report is an ARRL Board Confidential matter. It is not to be > distributed to anyone other than ARRL Officers, Directors, and Vice > Directors. > > As previously communicated to you, Chris Imlay and I met with Mike Wilhelm > at FCC on Monday, August 29 to discuss NPRM 05-235. > > My report is attached in Adobe Acrobat PDF format. If you cannot open this > document, please let me know. > > 73 Joel W5ZN ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Joel Harrison" <w5zn(a)arrl.org> To: "arrl-odv" < arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 14:30:46 +0000 Subject: [arrl-odv:12932] CONFIDENTIAL - Harrison/Imlay FCC Meeting -- Bob Vallio -- W6RGG Pacific Division Director, ARRL The national association for AMATEUR RADIO

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[arrl-odv:12939] Re: CONFIDENTIAL - Harrison/Imlay FCC Meeting
by Joel Harrison 04 Sep '05

04 Sep '05

QSL Wade...tnx info. I still feel strongly that we should pursue our original petition regarding an entry level license. The only thing I'm convinced FCC will refuse to change is the elimination of the Morse requirement. More later. I have another report coming to everyone within the next few days outlining Options 2 & 3 in much greater detail. Thanks again for the input. 73 Joel W5ZN -----Original Message----- From: walstrom(a)mchsi.com [mailto:walstrom@mchsi.com] Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 5:47 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:12935] Re: CONFIDENTIAL - Harrison/Imlay FCC Meeting I do not like Option 1 at all. I don't think it will send the message you suggest, but would be another indication of us becoming irrelevant. These clowns are too enamored with themselves to figure out a no-response means we think they are so far off base to elicit a response. I favor something between 2 and 3 and the closer to 3 the better. 73, Wade W0EJ > > The attached report is an ARRL Board Confidential matter. It is not to be > distributed to anyone other than ARRL Officers, Directors, and Vice > Directors. > > As previously communicated to you, Chris Imlay and I met with Mike Wilhelm > at FCC on Monday, August 29 to discuss NPRM 05-235. > > My report is attached in Adobe Acrobat PDF format. If you cannot open this > document, please let me know. > > 73 Joel W5ZN

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RE: [arrl-odv:12935] Re: CONFIDENTIAL - Harrison/Imlay FCC Meeting
by Jim K8JE 04 Sep '05

04 Sep '05

I fully concur with Wade. To me and the members in the GLD who seem to care at all, Option #1 is not even on the books. Option #3 is the most preferable simply because it is in my opinion an "all-win," "no-lose" proposition with current and potential members. The closer we approach using Option #1, the more fuel we feed on the fire of "the ARRL is moving to do away with Morse code" camp. The downsizing (in our draft bandwidth proposal) of specific CW allocations is just one example the uninitiated-but-verbally-active site as our loss of support for CW. Full-blown action toward maintaining Morse for Extra (only) should be a safe position to adopt. The No-Coders won't be churned up over this effort and the Know-Coders will love us for it. Right on, Wade! Jim Jim Weaver, K8JE Director, Great Lakes Division ARRL; http://www.arrl.org/ 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 Tel.: 513-459-0142; E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org ARRL: The reason Amateur Radio Is! MEMBERS: The reason ARRL Is! -----Original Message----- From: walstrom(a)mchsi.com [mailto:walstrom@mchsi.com] Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 6:47 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:12935] Re: CONFIDENTIAL - Harrison/Imlay FCC Meeting I do not like Option 1 at all. I don't think it will send the message you suggest, but would be another indication of us becoming irrelevant. These clowns are too enamored with themselves to figure out a no-response means we think they are so far off base to elicit a response. I favor something between 2 and 3 and the closer to 3 the better. 73, Wade W0EJ > > The attached report is an ARRL Board Confidential matter. It is not to be > distributed to anyone other than ARRL Officers, Directors, and Vice > Directors. > > As previously communicated to you, Chris Imlay and I met with Mike Wilhelm > at FCC on Monday, August 29 to discuss NPRM 05-235. > > My report is attached in Adobe Acrobat PDF format. If you cannot open this > document, please let me know. > > 73 Joel W5ZN

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[arrl-odv:12937] Re: Return to Normal
by Henry R. Leggette 04 Sep '05

04 Sep '05

Hi Jim, Thanks! We are all ok! I appreciate everyones concern. 73, Henry - WD4Q ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim K8JE" <K8JE(a)arrl.org> To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 2:38 PM Subject: [arrl-odv:12927] Re: Return to Normal > Henry, > > I'm happy to learn everything is OK with you and your family. I've sort > of been keeping track of your prospects through our daughter who lives > in Olive Branch. She and her family were "in the dark" the other night > thanks to Katrina's effect on power distribution, but otherwise it gave > them a chance to party. I hoe your experience has been no more severe > than hers. She is a PA working in a local ER and did comment on the > greatly increased number of (relocated) people from further down south > as well. The dramatic increase in demand for medical assistance has had > her and her colleagues hopping. > > If you need anything, let me know. I'm sure we could get it to you > through our daughter very readily. > > 73, GL, > > Jim > > Jim Weaver, K8JE > Director, Great Lakes Division ARRL; http://www.arrl.org/ > 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 > Tel.: 513-459-0142; E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org > ARRL: The reason Amateur Radio Is! > MEMBERS: The reason ARRL Is! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Henry R. Leggette [mailto:wd4q@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 11:17 AM > To: arrl-odv > Subject: [arrl-odv:12920] Re: Return to Normal > > Hi All, > > I have been out-of-service with the exception of the Notebook PC. I am > back > to normal! I lost my PC after Hurricane Katrina went through the > Memphis > and Shelby County area. > > I didn't do too much on the notebook pc. A lot of Missisippi and LA > citizens are here in the Mid South area. I worked in an effort to > obtain > shelter for some of them the last few days.. All hotels are full here > in > the Mid South area. > > Henry - WD4Q > > > > >

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CONFIDENTIAL - Harrison/Imlay FCC Meeting
by Bob Vallio 04 Sep '05

04 Sep '05

I believe that Wade has suggested the correct message to send to those bozos. 73, Bob -- W6RGG On 9/3/05, walstrom(a)mchsi.com <walstrom(a)mchsi.com> wrote: > > I do not like Option 1 at all. I don't think it will send the message you > suggest, but would be another indication of us becoming irrelevant. These > clowns are too enamored with themselves to figure out a no-response means > we > think they are so far off base to elicit a response. > > I favor something between 2 and 3 and the closer to 3 the better. > > 73, > > Wade W0EJ > > > > > > The attached report is an ARRL Board Confidential matter. It is not to > be > > distributed to anyone other than ARRL Officers, Directors, and Vice > > Directors. > > > > As previously communicated to you, Chris Imlay and I met with Mike > Wilhelm > > at FCC on Monday, August 29 to discuss NPRM 05-235. > > > > My report is attached in Adobe Acrobat PDF format. If you cannot open > this > > document, please let me know. > > > > 73 Joel W5ZN > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Joel Harrison" <w5zn(a)arrl.org> > To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> > Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 14:30:46 +0000 > Subject: [arrl-odv:12932] CONFIDENTIAL - Harrison/Imlay FCC Meeting > > > -- Bob Vallio -- W6RGG Pacific Division Director, ARRL The national association for AMATEUR RADIO

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[arrl-odv:12935] Re: CONFIDENTIAL - Harrison/Imlay FCC Meeting
by walstrom＠mchsi.com 03 Sep '05

03 Sep '05

I do not like Option 1 at all. I don't think it will send the message you suggest, but would be another indication of us becoming irrelevant. These clowns are too enamored with themselves to figure out a no-response means we think they are so far off base to elicit a response. I favor something between 2 and 3 and the closer to 3 the better. 73, Wade W0EJ > > The attached report is an ARRL Board Confidential matter. It is not to be > distributed to anyone other than ARRL Officers, Directors, and Vice > Directors. > > As previously communicated to you, Chris Imlay and I met with Mike Wilhelm > at FCC on Monday, August 29 to discuss NPRM 05-235. > > My report is attached in Adobe Acrobat PDF format. If you cannot open this > document, please let me know. > > 73 Joel W5ZN

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[arrl-odv:12934] Re: CONFIDENTIAL - Harrison/Imlay FCC Meeting
by Dennis Bodson 03 Sep '05

03 Sep '05

Joel: Excellent report. Thanks Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Joel Harrison [mailto:w5zn@arrl.org] Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 10:30 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:12932] CONFIDENTIAL - Harrison/Imlay FCC Meeting The attached report is an ARRL Board Confidential matter. It is not to be distributed to anyone other than ARRL Officers, Directors, and Vice Directors. As previously communicated to you, Chris Imlay and I met with Mike Wilhelm at FCC on Monday, August 29 to discuss NPRM 05-235. My report is attached in Adobe Acrobat PDF format. If you cannot open this document, please let me know. 73 Joel W5ZN

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