December 2005 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[arrl-odv:13405] Re: Gerritsen Found Guilty of All 6 Federal Counts!!
by dick＠pobox.com 09 Dec '05

09 Dec '05

9 DEC, 2005 - 1655 CST I remember an old saying... "The wheels of justice grind slowly, but they grind fine." - Dick, W9GIG

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Fwd: Gerritsen Found Guilty of All 6 Federal Counts!!
by Richard J. Norton 09 Dec '05

09 Dec '05

FYI - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Deputy Burton Brink <n6uso(a)officer.com> Date: Dec 9, 2005 12:37 PM Subject: Gerritsen Found Guilty of All 6 Federal Counts!! To: n6uso(a)officer.com Gerritsen Found Guilty of All 6 Federal Counts!! Today 12-09-05, at approx 10:05 AM, at the Roybal Federal Building in Downtown Los Angeles, the 7 women and 5 men jury returned with a unanimous verdict on the Gerritsen Federal case after approx 1 1/2 hours of deliberation, and found Jack Gerritsen (Ex-KG6IRO) GUILTY on all 6 Federal counts. Jack was taken into immediate custody by the U.S. Federal Marshals. Verdict is as follows: Count 1, U.S. Title 18, Section 1362, Transmit on a Government Freq; GUILTY Count 2, U.S. Title 47, Sections 333, 501, Malicious interference; GUILTY Count 3, U.S. Title 47, Sections 333, 501, Malicious interference; GUILTY Count 4, U.S. Title 47, Sections 301, 501, Transmitting without a License; GUILTY Count 5, U.S. Title 47, Sections 301, 501, Transmitting without a License; GUILTY Count 6, U.S. Title 47, Sections 301, 501, Transmitting without a License; GUILTY Jack objected to the immediate incarceration, but the Judge said these are FEDERAL Felonies, and he has been found guilty, and will be remanded. Sentencing will be on March 6, 2006 at 1:30 P.M. at the same court, Roybal Federal Court, 255 E. Temple St, Los Angeles, Room 850. The reason for the delay in sentencing is for Mr. Gerritsen to be interviewed by the Federal Probation Dept., which is standard practice prior to any sentencing. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. 73, Be Safe, Deputy Burton Brink-N6USO Los Angeles County Sheriff's Dept Temple Station 626-285-7171 Owner/Trustee of the 145.440- 136.5 (Tone) Repeater Sunset Ridge, Southern California www.qsl.net/n6uso ________________________________ Officer.com Free WebMail from The Web's Source for Police and Law Enforcement Visit now at http://www.officer.com *** IMPORTANT NOTICE *** This e-mail is being sent via Officer.com's free e-mail service for users. We cannot verify its contents OR the identify of the user. Please visit our contact page at http://www.officer.com/insider/contact.shtml to report suspicious e-mail.

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[arrl-odv:13403] Re: LoTW
by John Bellows 09 Dec '05

09 Dec '05

Res ipsa loquitur, sed quid in infernos dicit? Jay -----Original Message----- From: dick(a)pobox.com [mailto:dick@pobox.com] Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 2:11 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13402] Re: LoTW 9 DEC, 2005 - 1400 CST One more stroke on the carcass... If any "salvaging" was done, it was LoTW (a linux-based, in-house developed program) that salvaged DXCC. The commercially-produced "new" DXCC software was a train wreck prior to the year 2001 that cost us more than $100,000. It's my understanding that at least the LoTW link to our DXCC accounts database was also done in-house. I'm not sure if any "new" DXCC accounts database has ever been implemented. We have not heard anything about it, so I assume we are still using the patched very old DXCC accounts software. Dave Sumner can probably shed some light on this. 73 - Dick, W9GIG

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[arrl-odv:13402] Re: LoTW
by dick＠pobox.com 09 Dec '05

09 Dec '05

9 DEC, 2005 - 1400 CST One more stroke on the carcass... If any "salvaging" was done, it was LoTW (a linux-based, in-house developed program) that salvaged DXCC. The commercially-produced "new" DXCC software was a train wreck prior to the year 2001 that cost us more than $100,000. It's my understanding that at least the LoTW link to our DXCC accounts database was also done in-house. I'm not sure if any "new" DXCC accounts database has ever been implemented. We have not heard anything about it, so I assume we are still using the patched very old DXCC accounts software. Dave Sumner can probably shed some light on this. 73 - Dick, W9GIG

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[arrl-odv:13401] Re: LoTW
by Jim Weaver,K8JE 09 Dec '05

09 Dec '05

OK on this point, Joel. I guess I'm making too few distinctions between the LoTW program and DXCC computer program issues. Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org; Tel: 513-459-0142 ARRL Great Lakes Division ARRL, the Reason Amateur Radio is! Members, the Reason ARRL is! -----Original Message----- From: Joel Harrison [mailto:w5zn@arrl.org] Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 11:55 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13399] Re: LoTW I believe that was for DXCC specifically, not related to LoTW. We have had over the years multiple software related problems with software related to the records, processing and tracking of DXCC but non of those were related to LoTW because I believe we did LoTW "in-house". If I'm not correct, I'm sure I'll be correct but that is my recollection off the top of my head without looking anything up. 73 - ZN -----Original Message----- From: JIM WEAVER, K8JE [mailto:k8je@arrl.org] Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 10:50 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13398] Re: LoTW Joel, I agree and don't want to beat any dead mules, but my reference to salvaging was in regard to the scurrying around done to salvage the effort to develop the computer program. I believe there was some talk about financial difficulties on the part of a supplier, etc. To me, if not to others, this represented salvaging. Jim Weaver, K8JE Director, Great Lakes Division ARRL; http://www.arrl.org/ 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 Tel.: 513-459-0142; E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org ARRL: The reason Amateur Radio Is! MEMBERS: The reason ARRL Is!

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[arrl-odv:13400] Re: LoTW
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 09 Dec '05

09 Dec '05

That's right, Joel. Dave ________________________________ From: Joel Harrison [mailto:w5zn@arrl.org] Sent: Fri 12/9/2005 4:54 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13399] Re: LoTW I believe that was for DXCC specifically, not related to LoTW. We have had over the years multiple software related problems with software related to the records, processing and tracking of DXCC but non of those were related to LoTW because I believe we did LoTW "in-house". If I'm not correct, I'm sure I'll be correct but that is my recollection off the top of my head without looking anything up. 73 - ZN -----Original Message----- From: JIM WEAVER, K8JE [mailto:k8je@arrl.org] Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 10:50 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13398] Re: LoTW Joel, I agree and don't want to beat any dead mules, but my reference to salvaging was in regard to the scurrying around done to salvage the effort to develop the computer program. I believe there was some talk about financial difficulties on the part of a supplier, etc. To me, if not to others, this represented salvaging. Jim Weaver, K8JE Director, Great Lakes Division ARRL; http://www.arrl.org/ 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 Tel.: 513-459-0142; E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org ARRL: The reason Amateur Radio Is! MEMBERS: The reason ARRL Is!

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[arrl-odv:13399] Re: LoTW
by Joel Harrison 09 Dec '05

09 Dec '05

[arrl-odv:13393] Re: LoTWI believe that was for DXCC specifically, not related to LoTW. We have had over the years multiple software related problems with software related to the records, processing and tracking of DXCC but non of those were related to LoTW because I believe we did LoTW "in-house". If I'm not correct, I'm sure I'll be correct but that is my recollection off the top of my head without looking anything up. 73 - ZN -----Original Message----- From: JIM WEAVER, K8JE [mailto:k8je@arrl.org] Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 10:50 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13398] Re: LoTW Joel, I agree and don't want to beat any dead mules, but my reference to salvaging was in regard to the scurrying around done to salvage the effort to develop the computer program. I believe there was some talk about financial difficulties on the part of a supplier, etc. To me, if not to others, this represented salvaging. Jim Weaver, K8JE Director, Great Lakes Division ARRL; http://www.arrl.org/ 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 Tel.: 513-459-0142; E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org ARRL: The reason Amateur Radio Is! MEMBERS: The reason ARRL Is!

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[arrl-odv:13398] Re: LoTW
by JIM WEAVER, K8JE 09 Dec '05

09 Dec '05

Joel, I agree and don't want to beat any dead mules, but my reference to salvaging was in regard to the scurrying around done to salvage the effort to develop the computer program. I believe there was some talk about financial difficulties on the part of a supplier, etc. To me, if not to others, this represented salvaging. Jim Weaver, K8JE Director, Great Lakes Division ARRL; http://www.arrl.org/ 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 Tel.: 513-459-0142; E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org ARRL: The reason Amateur Radio Is! MEMBERS: The reason ARRL Is! -----Original Message----- From: Joel Harrison [mailto:w5zn@arrl.org] Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 11:22 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13397] Re: LoTW Jim, I really didn't intend for my original post to become a horse beating exercise, but in any event, I don't recall the LoTW project ever reaching a point of having to be "salvaged" at all. My recollection is that its schedule implementation schedule went extremely well and has worked well since it was opened. We haven't been able to move as quickly on opening it up to WAS and possibly other awards, but that is far from having to salvage it from whatever. Anywho, enuf carcass beating. 73 Joel W5ZN -----Original Message----- From: Jim Weaver,K8JE [mailto:k8je@arrl.org] Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 10:10 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13396] Re: LoTW Dave, I can appreciate each of the problems you mentioned. Where are the magic "answer genies" when we could use them? I will clarify one further point before moving on. This is that in no way am I trying to find fault with the folks at HQ who are running LoTW at this time. I believe they've done a pretty darned good job of salvaging the project in fine style. The overseas-use issue is in my mind the most important one related to bringing Logbook to its full potential in use and value to amateurs. We may not have planned nor want Logbook totally to replace QSL exchange, but the more it does just this or serves to supplement traditional QSLing, the greater the service it will provide to the amateur community. I believe, too, that the greater the service LoTW provides to the amateur community, the more rapidly we will recoup meaningful amounts of the considerable expense invested in the program. Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org; Tel: 513-459-0142 ARRL Great Lakes Division ARRL, the Reason Amateur Radio is! Members, the Reason ARRL is! -----Original Message----- From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ [mailto:dsumner@arrl.org] Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 8:58 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13394] Re: LoTW Jim, we agree on the need to greatly expand overseas participation. It is indeed a bit more bureaucratic for amateurs outside the US to register for LoTW, for the reason you cite: to maintain the integrity of the confirmation process. We can verify an FCC licensee's license status directly from FCC data. In most cases we can't do that for others. If we stopped requiring copies of licenses we would need some other system for verification such as trusted agents overseas. The principal problem in encouraging overseas participation has been the language barrier. We've made some headway in getting explanations of how to sign up for LoTW disseminated in languages other than English. A second issue is, of course, the need to add more awards. If you can only use LoTW credits for DXCC it isn't interesting to upload your US, German, Japanese, etc. QSOs. LoTW was never intended to completely replace the exchange of QSL cards. A QSL exchange after one's first QSO should still be the standard courtesy. 73, Dave K1ZZ _____ From: Joel Harrison [mailto:w5zn@arrl.org] Sent: Fri 12/9/2005 1:07 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13393] Re: LoTW Thanks for the clarification, Jim. 73 Joel -----Original Message----- From: Jim Weaver,K8JE [mailto:k8je@arrl.org] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:41 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13392] Re: LoTW Joel, My wording was less than totally clear. What I was trying to say is that it is not nearly so easy as I understand for many overseas DXers to register to use LoTW as it is for us . . . and some others. The issue, again as I understand it, is maintaining the integrity of LoTW as part of the DXCC program. I, too, have received many LoTW "acknowledgments," but to meet the ultimate goal for this innovative program, we need to get many, many additional overseas DXers signed up. Verstehen sie? Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org; Tel: 513-459-0142 ARRL Great Lakes Division ARRL, the Reason Amateur Radio is! Members, the Reason ARRL is!

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[arrl-odv:13397] Re: LoTW
by Joel Harrison 09 Dec '05

09 Dec '05

[arrl-odv:13393] Re: LoTWJim, I really didn't intend for my original post to become a horse beating exercise, but in any event, I don't recall the LoTW project ever reaching a point of having to be "salvaged" at all. My recollection is that its schedule implementation schedule went extremely well and has worked well since it was opened. We haven't been able to move as quickly on opening it up to WAS and possibly other awards, but that is far from having to salvage it from whatever. Anywho, enuf carcass beating. 73 Joel W5ZN -----Original Message----- From: Jim Weaver,K8JE [mailto:k8je@arrl.org] Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 10:10 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13396] Re: LoTW Dave, I can appreciate each of the problems you mentioned. Where are the magic "answer genies" when we could use them? I will clarify one further point before moving on. This is that in no way am I trying to find fault with the folks at HQ who are running LoTW at this time. I believe they've done a pretty darned good job of salvaging the project in fine style. The overseas-use issue is in my mind the most important one related to bringing Logbook to its full potential in use and value to amateurs. We may not have planned nor want Logbook totally to replace QSL exchange, but the more it does just this or serves to supplement traditional QSLing, the greater the service it will provide to the amateur community. I believe, too, that the greater the service LoTW provides to the amateur community, the more rapidly we will recoup meaningful amounts of the considerable expense invested in the program. Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org; Tel: 513-459-0142 ARRL Great Lakes Division ARRL, the Reason Amateur Radio is! Members, the Reason ARRL is! -----Original Message----- From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ [mailto:dsumner@arrl.org] Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 8:58 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13394] Re: LoTW Jim, we agree on the need to greatly expand overseas participation. It is indeed a bit more bureaucratic for amateurs outside the US to register for LoTW, for the reason you cite: to maintain the integrity of the confirmation process. We can verify an FCC licensee's license status directly from FCC data. In most cases we can't do that for others. If we stopped requiring copies of licenses we would need some other system for verification such as trusted agents overseas. The principal problem in encouraging overseas participation has been the language barrier. We've made some headway in getting explanations of how to sign up for LoTW disseminated in languages other than English. A second issue is, of course, the need to add more awards. If you can only use LoTW credits for DXCC it isn't interesting to upload your US, German, Japanese, etc. QSOs. LoTW was never intended to completely replace the exchange of QSL cards. A QSL exchange after one's first QSO should still be the standard courtesy. 73, Dave K1ZZ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From: Joel Harrison [mailto:w5zn@arrl.org] Sent: Fri 12/9/2005 1:07 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13393] Re: LoTW Thanks for the clarification, Jim. 73 Joel -----Original Message----- From: Jim Weaver,K8JE [mailto:k8je@arrl.org] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:41 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13392] Re: LoTW Joel, My wording was less than totally clear. What I was trying to say is that it is not nearly so easy as I understand for many overseas DXers to register to use LoTW as it is for us . . . and some others. The issue, again as I understand it, is maintaining the integrity of LoTW as part of the DXCC program. I, too, have received many LoTW "acknowledgments," but to meet the ultimate goal for this innovative program, we need to get many, many additional overseas DXers signed up. Verstehen sie? Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org; Tel: 513-459-0142 ARRL Great Lakes Division ARRL, the Reason Amateur Radio is! Members, the Reason ARRL is!

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[arrl-odv:13396] Re: LoTW
by Jim Weaver,K8JE 09 Dec '05

09 Dec '05

Dave, I can appreciate each of the problems you mentioned. Where are the magic "answer genies" when we could use them? I will clarify one further point before moving on. This is that in no way am I trying to find fault with the folks at HQ who are running LoTW at this time. I believe they've done a pretty darned good job of salvaging the project in fine style. The overseas-use issue is in my mind the most important one related to bringing Logbook to its full potential in use and value to amateurs. We may not have planned nor want Logbook totally to replace QSL exchange, but the more it does just this or serves to supplement traditional QSLing, the greater the service it will provide to the amateur community. I believe, too, that the greater the service LoTW provides to the amateur community, the more rapidly we will recoup meaningful amounts of the considerable expense invested in the program. Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org; Tel: 513-459-0142 ARRL Great Lakes Division ARRL, the Reason Amateur Radio is! Members, the Reason ARRL is! -----Original Message----- From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ [mailto:dsumner@arrl.org] Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 8:58 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13394] Re: LoTW Jim, we agree on the need to greatly expand overseas participation. It is indeed a bit more bureaucratic for amateurs outside the US to register for LoTW, for the reason you cite: to maintain the integrity of the confirmation process. We can verify an FCC licensee's license status directly from FCC data. In most cases we can't do that for others. If we stopped requiring copies of licenses we would need some other system for verification such as trusted agents overseas. The principal problem in encouraging overseas participation has been the language barrier. We've made some headway in getting explanations of how to sign up for LoTW disseminated in languages other than English. A second issue is, of course, the need to add more awards. If you can only use LoTW credits for DXCC it isn't interesting to upload your US, German, Japanese, etc. QSOs. LoTW was never intended to completely replace the exchange of QSL cards. A QSL exchange after one's first QSO should still be the standard courtesy. 73, Dave K1ZZ _____ From: Joel Harrison [mailto:w5zn@arrl.org] Sent: Fri 12/9/2005 1:07 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13393] Re: LoTW Thanks for the clarification, Jim. 73 Joel -----Original Message----- From: Jim Weaver,K8JE [mailto:k8je@arrl.org] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:41 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13392] Re: LoTW Joel, My wording was less than totally clear. What I was trying to say is that it is not nearly so easy as I understand for many overseas DXers to register to use LoTW as it is for us . . . and some others. The issue, again as I understand it, is maintaining the integrity of LoTW as part of the DXCC program. I, too, have received many LoTW "acknowledgments," but to meet the ultimate goal for this innovative program, we need to get many, many additional overseas DXers signed up. Verstehen sie? Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org; Tel: 513-459-0142 ARRL Great Lakes Division ARRL, the Reason Amateur Radio is! Members, the Reason ARRL is!

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