April 2004 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[ARRL-ODV:10532] Re: SEVHFS
by James Weaver 28 Apr '04

28 Apr '04

Joel, I think it is great that the Arkansas club members chose to forgo buying Sunday-go-to-meetin' shoes so they could contribute the money to the League! Jim W. AMATEUR RADIO: The only fail-safe communications system in the world. ARRL: The reason Amateur Radio is! Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director, Great Lakes Division ARRL 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040-9660, Tel. 513-459-0142, E-mail k8je(a)arrl.org

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[ARRL-ODV:10531] Re: RE Web Article Is Your Club's License Class Real...
by K5ur＠aol.com 28 Apr '04

28 Apr '04

In a message dated 4/27/04 8:59:31 PM Central Daylight Time, k1ro(a)arrl.org writes: << I asked staff to take the article off the Web site. >> ___________________________________________ Good move, Mark. 73, K5UR

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[ARRL-ODV:10530] Re: SEVHFS
by Tuck Miller 28 Apr '04

28 Apr '04

Good going Sandy!! Joel Harrison wrote: >This past weekend, I attended the Southeast VHF Society Conference in >Marietta, GA. > >As usual, an excellent show. Dennis Motschenbacher, K7BV/1, was the featured >banquet speaker and did an outstanding job. > >At the banquet, the Society presented a check to ARRL for $500 for the >Defense of Frequencies Fund. Vice Director Donahue is very active with this >group on the local level, and has been for several years. The amount donated >this year is an increase from their very gracious annual contribution, and >that is due in no small part to Sandy's efforts and work with the group. >Thanks Sandy. > >73 Joel W5ZN > >p.s. Yes, Barry, I have the check and it is on its way to you, along with >another $100 check from a local Arkansas club > > > > >

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[ARRL-ODV:10529] Re: President Bush encourages BPL
by Tom Frenaye 28 Apr '04

28 Apr '04

(2nd try - I sent this yesterday but never saw it posted) At 08:39 PM 4/26/2004, K1ZZ wrote: >Rick, that motion spoke only of the Senate and Congress. The target of this effort will be the White House. >However, we can now update the package and make it clear to everyone on the Hill that the White House has stepped in it. Now that we know where Prez Bush stands on BPL, do we have any idea if Sen Kerry thinks the same way? How do we find out? And, how are we working to get it in front of him as an issue? -- Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[ARRL-ODV:10528] Re: Missing ODV messages....
by Tuck Miller 28 Apr '04

28 Apr '04

Frank, I looked back over my odv files, and I don't think I recd them either. Frank Fallon - N2FF wrote: > For some reason I am missing two recent ODV messages - numbers 10501 > and 10503. > > I am not sure why that happened. I have never noticed this before. > > Can I get a copy of those two. > > Frank Fallon........ N2FF >

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[ARRL-ODV:10527] Vice Director Attendance at July Board Meeting
by n5ok.ok＠att.net 27 Apr '04

27 Apr '04

Greetings, Tom Frenaye and I reviewed division and board meeting expenditures this last week. Our specific findings will be in the 24 July A&F committee meeting minutes. I will say that we were unable to find enough savings to bring all our Vice Directors to both ARRL board meetings annually. The A&F committee at the 24 April meeting did consider the attendance of Vice Directors at board meetings. Knowing that many of the Vice Directors are planning to attend the July board meeting at their own expense we addressed issues that might come up at that meeting. The committee recognized that the Rocky Mountain Vice Director, Rev Morton, is authorized to attend at ARRL expense since he was unable to attend the January meeting. Other Vice Directors that attend will have to do so at their own expense with no reimbursement for travel, lodging or meals. However, the consensus was that the intent of the board was not to exclude Vice Directors in attendance from the social aspects of the meeting and that they should, therefore, be able to participate in the ARRL contracted meals Thursday evening, Friday, and Saturday noon. Coy -- ARRL West Gulf Division Director Coy Day, N5OK 20685 SW 29th St Union City, OK 73090-9726 n5ok(a)arrl.org 405-483-5632

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[ARRL-ODV:10526] SEVHFS
by Joel Harrison 27 Apr '04

27 Apr '04

This past weekend, I attended the Southeast VHF Society Conference in Marietta, GA. As usual, an excellent show. Dennis Motschenbacher, K7BV/1, was the featured banquet speaker and did an outstanding job. At the banquet, the Society presented a check to ARRL for $500 for the Defense of Frequencies Fund. Vice Director Donahue is very active with this group on the local level, and has been for several years. The amount donated this year is an increase from their very gracious annual contribution, and that is due in no small part to Sandy's efforts and work with the group. Thanks Sandy. 73 Joel W5ZN p.s. Yes, Barry, I have the check and it is on its way to you, along with another $100 check from a local Arkansas club

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[ARRL-ODV:10525] Re: RE Web Article Is Your Club's License Class Really Efficient?
by Joel Harrison 27 Apr '04

27 Apr '04

My new pen pal, W5USM, who is one of Coy's star constituents, will have a field day (no pun intended) with this one as it will add more gasoline to his fire than he has spark to keep it going. Hopefully it got pulled before he woke up from his afternoon nap and read it. 73 Joel W5ZN -----Original Message----- From: JBellows [mailto:jbellows@skypoint.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 12:00 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:10520] RE Web Article Is Your Club's License Class Really Efficient? The following is from the current ARRL Web Page article Is Your Clubs License Class Really Efficient? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I met the group in the morning for the experiment. I did nothing more than provide them with a printed copy of the Technician Question Pool and set them only to reading it for three hours--no lecturing, no explaining, no teaching. We took 15-minute breaks every hour, had lunch at noon and came back for three hours in the afternoon. At 4 PM we administered the test. It was all over in just one day. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder when we shifted from encouraging folks to learn about Amateur Radio as moved to a just study the question pool mode. This concept unabashedly touts relying exclusively on short term memory to pass the Technician test. It doesnt even pretend to promote remembering the material beyond the test much less understanding the material. If this is the new paradigm we ought to consider cutting costs by dumping The Big Project, cutting the entire Education Staff and just publishing a monthly journal and books. Wait a second --- if all we need to know are the answers in the question pool why bother with a journal or books? Im going to have a tough time challenging those who say we are dumbing down Amateur Radio if ARRL is promoting this. Jay, KØQB

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[ARRL-ODV:10524] Re: President Bush encourages BPL
by Tom Frenaye 27 Apr '04

27 Apr '04

At 08:39 PM 4/26/2004, K1ZZ wrote: >Rick, that motion spoke only of the Senate and Congress. The target of this effort will be the White House. >However, we can now update the package and make it clear to everyone on the Hill that the White House has stepped in it. Now that we know where Prez Bush stands on BPL, do we have any idea if Sen Kerry thinks the same way? How do we find out? And, how are we working to get it in front of him as an issue? -- Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[ARRL-ODV:10523] Re: RE Web Article Is Your Club's License Class Really Efficient?
by walstrom＠mchsi.com 27 Apr '04

27 Apr '04

This is not a new issue to the "dumbing down" claims. The argument is that with some many questions in the pools it is not practical to memorize all the questions in a pool of interest to cover all the question possibilities in a test. Our new mentoring program may want to take the reality of this issue into consideration in implementing the program. 73, Wade W0EJ > Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this article, Jay. That philosophy -- using > memorization of questions and answers to pass the test -- is counter to what > we've been saying in our license manuals and instructor materials for as long as > I can remember. I asked staff to take the article off the Web site. > > The editors tell me that this article was recommended by someone who is known to > us who observed one of these classes and the followup work the group does with > students to bring them along after the license exam is out of the way. But I > agree that an approach that relies exclusively on memorization of the question > pool is not something we can promote. > > 73, Mark K1RO > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bellows, John (Dir, Dakota) > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 12:00 PM > To: arrl-odv > Subject: [ARRL-ODV:10520] RE Web Article Is Your Club's License Class Really > Efficient? > > > The following is from the current ARRL Web Page article "Is Your Club's License > Class Really Efficient?" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > " I met the group in the morning for the experiment. I did nothing more than > provide them with a printed copy of the Technician Question Pool and set them > only to reading it for three hours--no lecturing, no explaining, no teaching. We > took 15-minute breaks every hour, had lunch at noon and came back for three > hours in the afternoon. At 4 PM we administered the test. It was all over in > just one day. " > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I wonder when we shifted from encouraging folks to learn about Amateur Radio as > moved to a "just study the question pool mode." This concept unabashedly > touts relying exclusively on short term memory to pass the Technician test. It > doesn't even pretend to promote remembering the material beyond the test much > less understanding the material. > > If this is the new paradigm we ought to consider cutting costs by dumping The > Big Project, cutting the entire Education Staff and just publishing a monthly > journal and books. Wait a second --- if all we need to know are the answers in > the question pool why bother with a journal or books? > > I'm going to have a tough time challenging those who say we are "dumbing down" > Amateur Radio if ARRL is promoting this. > > Jay, KØQB >

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