November 2004 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[ARRL-ODV:11598] Re: Whazzat?
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

Briefly, it's a headline news feed. I've asked Tom Hogerty for a better explanation of what we're doing with it. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Craigie, Kay (2nd Vice President) Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 9:00 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:11597] Whazzat? On the ARRL web page I see a new button whose function I don't understand. At the left side of the the aqua-colored box that says "Amateur Radio News" (above the news stories) there is a little rectangular red button that says "RSS." If I click on it, I get a page of html source code that lists a bunch of the news story titles. Anybody know what this button is supposed to be doing? 73 - Kay N3KN

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[ARRL-ODV:11597] Whazzat?
by Kay Craigie 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

On the ARRL web page I see a new button whose function I don't understand. At the left side of the the aqua-colored box that says "Amateur Radio News" (above the news stories) there is a little rectangular red button that says "RSS." If I click on it, I get a page of html source code that lists a bunch of the news story titles. Anybody know what this button is supposed to be doing? 73 - Kay N3KN

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[ARRL-ODV:11596] Re: Winlink Commentary
by Kay Craigie 20 Nov '04

20 Nov '04

My home county's ARES/RACES is successfully using WINLINK both HF and VHF and making an extraordinarily good impression on emergency management with our ability to provide them with backup e-mail connectivity should they ever lose it in a disaster. In some nuclear generation station tests mandated by FEMA we are expected to transmit lengthy messages that would take forever via voice links but go just fine via the VHF Telpac links. Without it, we simply can't do what is wanted from us in our county in the present day to support emergency management's messaging requirements. My OM is using WINLINK and related software successfully from our house using a plain old Kantronics TNC, a regular VHF/UHF transceiver, and an ancient Kenwood TS 440S for HF. A lot of our other ARES/RACES groups in EPA are successful with it also and moving ahead. While other people argue about who doesn't like whom because of what happened years ago, and whose favorite mode is better than somebody else's favorite mode, local hams are getting the job done and making ham radio look like the valuable service that it is. The demo last summer was not effective ... at least the part I saw wasn't. But what I'm seeing on a daily basis in my home county is impressive. The key person for us is the guy who made it all happen in the Honduras medical humanitarian project that was recently the subject of an article in QST. Those people use it out in the jungle because it works. I'm no expert on these things, but I can see what's in front of me. 73 - Kay N3KN

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[ARRL-ODV:11595] Re: Winlink Commentary
by K5ur＠aol.com 20 Nov '04

20 Nov '04

Hi Dick and all: I could flood the Board with Winklink stuff, if you want, since K4CJX, the Winlink guru, in my Division. I get copies of correspondence regularly from him, especially after the last EC meeting when he said our revisions to the bandwidth proposal have hurt Winlink. I'm leaving those issues for discussion Thursday night before the Board meeting when Mr. Harrison gives his presentation, plus to Mr. Mondro, who I've talked to about this as well. Suffice it to say, we need to really look closely at the Winlink issue. 73, Rick - K5UR

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[ARRL-ODV:11594] Winlink Commentary
by dick＠pobox.com 20 Nov '04

20 Nov '04

19 NOV, 2004 - 1755 CST I have been given permission by the author, Mike Baugh, W8AKF to forward his discussion of Winlink. Mike, an ARRL member, is a former Central Division member who now lives in California but is in the process of returning to Indiana. Rather than repeat what he says, it's all in his message below. Apparently, Mike is one of the few hams - outside of the Winlink development group - who has hands-on experience with Winlink and seems to not be so emotional about it. Ever since I saw the Winlink demonstration last July at ARRL headquarters, I have been underwhelmed by it. But I am also a bit turned off by the florid words of some who oppose making a place for it in our proposed bandwidth petition. I welcome your comments, both pro and con on his message - before we meet in January. - Dick ======================================================================= To: JKutche(a)lehighcement.com Cc: n9lya(a)n9lya.com, k9gbr(a)claysisp.com, w9gig(a)arrl.org, n9ynf(a)arrl.net, k9zbm(a)verizon.net, n9kt(a)arrl.net Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 22:06:01 -0800 Subject: Re: RN9 Digital MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-4,11-14,16-17,19-20,22,24,26-27,29-31,33,35,37,40-41,44-45,47-49,51-53,58-60,63-64,67-68,70-72,74-77,79-81,83-85,87,89,91-94,96-97,99,101-105,107-109,111,113-114,116-117,119,121-122,125-126,129,131,133-134,136-145 From: mike baugh <w8akf(a)juno.com> Wow - What a discussion! Should an outsider (for now ONLY) out of respect for Central Division NTS traffic and W9GIG, Friendship of N9LYA, and N9YNF, and condolences for my future SM, enter into this discussion? Jerry says Yes, SOOO here goes ---- for those who don't know me - Licensed in Bloomington,IN in 1948 (age 7), at age 14 joined RN9 (wasn't called that then) Hi-Speed CW NTS net, very active until moved to CA where I'm currently very active in RN6 Hi Speed CW, VHF voice nets. I'm proud of my "CW FOREVER" and NTS T Shirts and 40 WPM CP. The walls of my shack are papered with BPL's, and I have 2 Gold (100 club) NTS medallions. I'm very proud of my 50 year NTS service..... I own WINLINK 2K Software, PACTORIII TNC, and license. I run, and have run for 20 years+ ARRL/AARD HF/VHF/UHF 24/7/365 NTS packet networks (commonly called "SKIPNET BBS'") Shortly, I'll be returning to live in my home in Bloomington, IN, so yes, I have a vested interest. Unfortunately, for those same 20+ years, I've watched our ARRL back the wrong digital horse, although the RIGHT digital horse was donated to them in 1983. The right digital horse is the very same one that brings this E-mail, and ALL Internet traffic to you, the X.25 protocol, "packet". The Amateur version is AX.25. At first, because of my CW friends at HQ, that faction, saw packet as a threat and did not back it, and so the HQ "line" was NTS stay with RTTY. In 1985 the HQ love affair with Vic Poor, W5SWM began, and the HQ "line" was NTS use AMTOR. When that failed to materialize, then came APLINK, ditto with it, then APLINK 600, ditto with it, then it was G-TOR, ditto with it, then P-TOR, then PACTOR, then PACTORII (currently illegal in FCC land, the max bandwidth exceeds 500 Hz) and the latest HQ edit -- NTS go with PACTORIII with WINLINK 2K software. Also currently illegal (max bandwidth is 6 times that allowed by FCC) The reasons why all these xxTOR technologies failed so badly were 2 fold. They didn't work as advertised, gave no acknowledgement to NTS - Op, and they, and their equipment were/are expensive. Secondary reason for xxTOR technologies failure was that their thru put was so much slower that the plain vanilla 300 baud HF "PACKET" technology. Another reason I've heard for using WINLINK is that it gateways directly into the ALMIGHTY Internet, "Hey" the packet BBS programs have had that capability since 1989. I paid $1200 for my WINLINK SCS (sole source) PTC-II TNC, it "only" works on 2 expensive Kenwood Solid state switched Transceivers I got mine for $2100, After I paid the license fee ($250) for WINLINK, I learned it would only run on a Pentium 4, 3 GHz computer. So there is another $1100 for the computer. Conversely: In 1985, X.25 (packet) began to evolve running parallel to Internet improvements, with 4 software packages starting then, and still going now, all have been donated for ham use (no $250 licensing). Today that same packet, MSYS software that Jerry runs, will run on a circa 1981 XT clone type computer, (yep the ones everyone throws in the thrash as ancient boat anchors) and everything since. $0 !!!!! Packet also runs on any of the 650,000 plus TNC's that have been produced since 1985 now available on E-Bay for $20 (yeah that's the one that is collecting dust in your closet) Radio-wise, HF packet will run on a TS-520, FT-101, Swan, almost ALL old tube radio's built after 1960. I picked up a TS-520 at Hamfest here for $50 in working order. Although My Purdue practical math may be failing me, I make that $4,650 to set up my WINLINK PACTORIII HF port, and $70 to set up my Packet HF port. Guess that's why there are only 4 WINLINK HF stations in the US - verses 71 HF Packet stations on our nets alone ? By the way, each of these 71 HF packet stations has an OPEN VHF port, which is connected to the local VHF digital node strings like NET/ROM, APRS, DXNODE, SEDAN, TEXNET, THENET, FLEXNET etc. This for easy entry of NTS traffic at any node or digi point along the line. The thru put of WINLINK/PACTORIII on HF is identical of Packet HF. OK now the summary - How do your NTS folks use the existing HF packet network to handle traffic. Answer - After a CW, or VHF voice NTS session, any leftover traffic can be entered on the nearest Packet node/BBS be it VHF or HF, and it WILL give you an instant acknowledgement, and route. And unlike All the failed WINLINK NTS mail - it WILL get there. Note; all Packet BBS sysop's I know of in the Central Division are AVID NTS traffic handlers, and deliverer's !! Here in RN6 land this is a NO-Brainer, and sure beats the NTS adage "(msg number XXXXX ) and I'll put the text in an E-mail to you" which seems to be prevalent these days on VHF, and CW nets Note: Here in 6 land we use the donated dumb operator "OUTPOST" NTS message entry fill in the blanks software. It's SOOO easy. As Jerry contests, to set up a WINLINK equivalent to the 8 existing HF packet radio servers in Indiana alone - as ARRL HQ "recommends" - I certainly hope the ARRL will send the $60,000 it will cost! My comment taken from N0IA's (WINLINK Promoter) message to HQ of 10-16 after Hurricane Charley "The WINLINK Server and ISP went out just before the hurricane hit Captiva Island, and was out for 34 hours". Since WINLINK relies 100% on WINLINK SERVER (read that INTERNET) to deliver ALL messages along with each INTERNET ISP along the line, that means WINLINK was out of commission for this entire disaster in Florida, while SEDAN packet network handled thousands of WX reports, SITREP, and H&W messages even though 4 of it's nodes blew away (source: SEDAN Administrator Tom Nolan KD4MWO) My personal message to HQ is another recantation of Ronald Reagan to Jimmy Carter, "There you go AGAIN" ! Soapbox off Thanks for listening 73 Mike Baugh P.E., C.N.E., C.Q.E W8AKF Trustee, Hoosier Radio Society

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[ARRL-ODV:11593] Thanks for the memories
by Tuck Miller NZ6T 19 Nov '04

19 Nov '04

By now, most of you have seen the election results, and I have to be quite honest, they caught me completely by surprise. I have been a ham since August of 1991, and most of that time, I have been actively involved in club offices, and most importantly work with the ARRL. I will never forget all the friendships I have made with the Board family, and I thank each and everyone of you for your support. I look forward to hearing many of you on the air at one time or another. 73 to all. Tuck NZ6T -- ************************************************ ARRL The national association for Amateur Radio Remember, Helping Others....Always Worthwhile!! Southwestern Division Vice Director Are you a member yet? If not, please join! Check out the Convention web site at: http://arrlswdconv.org/

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[ARRL-ODV:11592] Election results
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 19 Nov '04

19 Nov '04

The Committee of Tellers has certified the results of the contested elections for Director and Vice Director for the 2005-2008 term. They are: Southwestern Division for Director: Dick Norton, N6AA, 2662 Tuck Miller, NZ6T, 1451 Southeastern Division for Vice Director: Sandy Donahue, W4RU, 2413 Sherri Brower, W4STB, 1694 West Gulf for Vice Director: Dr. David Woolweaver, K5RAV, 1417 Doug Loughmiller, W5BL, 1301 The terms of office begin at noon January 1, 2005, and are for three years. 73, David Sumner, K1ZZ Secretary

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[ARRL-ODV:11591] IN-News
by Kustosik, Lisa, KA1UFZ 18 Nov '04

18 Nov '04

IN-Newsletter Vol. 27, No. 46 November 17, 2004 Upcoming Meetings Ballot Counting, Director/Vice Director Elections November 19th in Newington, CT A & F Committee November 20th in Newington, CT at 8:30am Board Meeting January 21-22, 2005 in Windsor, CT Development 2100 long term members have been recognized for their longevity as members of 50, 60, 70 or 80 years with a personalized certificate and congratulatory letter. Pins at the appropriate level are being mailed this week. The 2005 Spectrum Defense fund has topped $150,000 from nearly 3000 donors, on its way to reaching a goal of $250,000. We have received several gifts of $1000, $2000 and more. Since the campaign mailed earlier this year, a third appeal will be mailed over President Haynie's signature to approximately 6500 prior donors who have not yet contributed to the 2005 Defense Fund. This group will not receive the Year End appeal letter. Concurrently, a new Year End appeal is being mailed to more than 40,000 member in an effort to raise $116,000 before December 31. This group will not receive the third Defense letter. Article selection is being made for the next issue of the Legacy Circle Letter for planned giving. ARRL Foundation scholarship applications continue to come in. We have received information from a Foundation bequest donor who has decided to change his plans and inaugurate a new scholarship in his late wife's name with an initial gift of $10,000 before December 31. Plans are being made for the January meeting of the ARRL Foundation Board of Directors, including the preparation of a Foundation Director's Notebook. Media & Public Relations The Toy drive proceeds well going into its final full week. WPBT (Channel 2) is doing a shoot about the toy drive this week. This is initially for "New Florida" which is one of the public broadcasting shows. Their national material is also fed to many other PBS locations. News releases and updates are going out weekly. Applications are coming in for the annual Bill Leonard awards. A recording of the PR forum at Dayton 2004 has been digitized and will be included in a PIO toolkit CD being developed. Production/Editorial The Emergency Communication Handbook has been released to the printer. Editorial work is progressing nicely on the January 2005 issue of QST, and the January/February 2005 issues of QEX and NCJ. Rick Lindquist reports The ARRL Letter, Vol. 23, No. 45, distributed to 66,589 ARRL members on November 12. Rick prepared/edited news items on the FCC's problems processing amateur applications (2), ARRL Community Education Project to visit 12 communities, HF propagation anomalies from geomagnetic storms, Georgia State Convention youth involvement, W1AW 2004 FMT announcement, and several news briefs. Rick voiced, edited and produced ARRL Audio News for November 12. The list of repeaters and stations reporting they are airing ARRL Audio News in full or in part is up to 177. Sales & Marketing Returns from the recent Fall membership mailing have already exceeded 500 applications from among lapsed members. We are tracking and studying the mailing closely, because it is producing some of the strongest membership returns we have seen in a long time from direct mail. Advertising procurement for the January issue of QST is in full swing. We are very pleased to report that, after much coaching, Yaesu committed to some expanded page space advertising in addition to their normal cover spot. They were so pleased with the December QST layout that they are repeating the exact same spread in January. Gap Antenna traditionally forgoes advertising in January QST. ARRL sales crew took the initiative and had our Diane Szlachetka create a completely new, slick ad for Gap using her imagination and talent. We took that ad to Gap and once again asked for an order for December QST, this time making it easy for the customer to say Yes because we had an ad ready to go. They loved the ad and placed the order. We will now move forward and try to bring this client onboard as a regular client employing our creative and graphic service capability. Rick Spears from RLS Electronics in Russellville AR has passed away at the age of 47. Our condolences go out to his family. A handful of new products will be introduced in the January issue of QST: Hints & Kinks for the Radio Amateur, 17th edition, ARRL Order No. 9361, Retail $17.95 The ARRL Emergency Communication Handbook, ARRL Order No. 9388, Retail $19.95 ARRL Periodicals on CD-ROM 2004, ARRL Order No. 9396, Retail $19.95 We have introduced Holiday Greeting Cards, based on the cover design of December's issue of QST. The cards are part of our Holiday Publications Promotion--and are already helping to drive more business to the ARRL e-store. Members and customers can also purchase additional quantities for $9.95 per set (includes 20 cards and 20 envelopes). We trust this product will prove to be very popular with our members and that we can make this an exciting annual offering Membership Services Awards Branch WAC QSL Cards Checked 54 WAC Certs. (72 QSLs ES/C) 12 5BWAC Certs. (90 QSLs ES/C) 3 Extra Class Certs. 18 A-1 Op. Noms. 3 LTMA Inquires 2 VUCC Initial Apps. 3 Grids 301 VUCC End. Apps. 7 Grids 665 Awards Mailed 58 Processing Status: Current or up to three weeks. For the coming week-WAS Specialty, WAS in the 90th, and VUCC awards processing/mailing, and mail out all awards processed this week. DXCC Branch For the week of: November 14, 2004 Beginning Cards 43,820 Cards Received 4,481 Cards Processed 16,719 Ending Cards 31,582 Applications Pending 374 Processing Time 5.4 Weeks Year-to-date (2004) Cards Received 498,625 Cards Returned 516,089 DXCC is currently mailing applications received on October 7, 2004. DXCC is currently entering cards received on October 7, 2004. Bill Moore attended the Ft Wayne hamfest this past weekend. Work processed: 22 DXCC apps / 4,388 country credits 3 VUCC / 232 Grids 2 WAC / 12 credits Logbook of the World QSO records entered into the system 55,652,179 QSL records have resulted 2,086,358 Logs Processed 79,290 Active Certificates 11,973 Users registered in the system 8,831 Current Applications 188 Ready Applications 77 Applications Awaiting Mail 111 QSL Bureau Processing time is 3 days. This week 101 pounds of cards were received from members. Cards mailed as of 11/14/04: 882,310. No cards were mailed this week. W1AW Joe uploaded W1AW/90 logs to LoTW, and also updated the web code practice files. He performed some initial frequency measuring tests on the Harris and Omni VI+ exciters (in part for preparation of the 2004 FMT). After the testing, he also set three of the Harris exciters to the published FMT voice frequencies. Joe created the 2005 Qualifying Run schedules for both W1AW and K6YR. Joe printed both the mailing labels and certificates for the Hiram Percy Maxim 135th Birthday Celebration. He also readied a "newer" PC (550 MHz machine) to ultimately replace the 166 MHz PC currently in use for the APRS/WX station. Scott worked on slow and fast code practice files for the latter part of the month of November. He proofed the 2005 QR schedule for Joe and also handled some evening phone sales calls in the daily 5 PM to 8 PM time slots. Field & Educational Services Rosalie updated the Department of Homeland Security on progress made for the new CEP grant; CNCS has requested a weekly report to be sent to them. She spoke with a person in the Johnson Space Center (JSC) Public Affairs Office about a possible news item for the future. She handled an initial inquiry from CTDLC, our online course Web host. Rosalie set up, moderated and took notes for an ARISS-Intl education committee teleconference. JSC reported 6 astronauts and 1 spouse passed their license exams; call signs will be reported. Gail Iannone wrote 22 hamfest and 4 convention announcements for the January issue of QST and sent these to the Managing Editor. She also sent 7 hamfest approval letters and 2 convention approval letters to the sponsoring committees confirming the Division Director's approval of their events as ARRL-sanctioned, and processed 3 label requests for upcoming events. Volunteer Instructor/Mentor/Club Program Norm Fusaro interviewed and wrote a Web story about a Utah club that has a great mentor program. He networked with an ARES group and several members looking for our educational services. He and Margie are developing a list of questions they will use as a survey for the Volunteer Instructors -- welcome back, Margie. Norm is reviewing a product from the ETP that may have value for a club activity; he discussed it with Bob in Marketing since the product may be good for clubs to purchase. Margie Bourgoin updated 36 club records and sent several information kits to members requesting these. She replenished some video library stock and other materials that we provide to members. Steve Ford provided her and Norm with some time to explain the Access databases required to process the incoming Emcomm and PSAR surveys that Margie will be responsible for. Margie entered all the data we have received and both programs are now current. Field Organization/Public Service Team Leona Adams added over 20 new Field Appointments into the database, and handled the respective initial supply packages. Three dozen appointment updates or cancellations were processed as were section-related expense reports. Incoming SM election ballots have slowed, but members in those sections have until November 19. Incumbent KY SM John Meyers, NB4K, has been nominated for another term starting in April, 2005. Steve Ewald hosted a visit from the RI SM and the Technical Coordinator. Steve turned in the Public Service column articles for January QST, and showed Margie Bourgoin how to compile the Field Organization public service statistics for the monthly column. We learned that the Eastern Washington Section held their Fall ARES/RACES Leadership Summit and spent time discussing many issues, such as Winlink 2000 and making plans to test it in a future simulated emergency test. Chuck Skolaut received news about an AM broadcasting station in Texas that had been causing interference to local radio amateurs on 160 meters. The problem was resolved thanks to efforts of a local ham and the cooperation of the station's technical staff. Chuck received an FCC Monitoring Request to cover a particular 20-meter frequency. He is following up with the Official Observer Coordinators and Official Observers to put this request into action. Amateur Radio Education & Technology Program (ETP) Mark Spencer made his recommendation on the November round of ETP grants, and is waiting to hear what items to forward to the Executive Committee. He continues to develop the basic electronics curriculum and it is approximately 2/3 complete. He went to a local school to provide in-service training on integrating wireless technology into their classrooms; the school had expressed interest in the ETP, and this training was the first real step toward their adoption of portions of our program. Community Education Program Bill Barrett has nearly finalized his PowerPoint presentation that will be given to the 12 Citizen Corps Councils around the US. He continues to work on plans for the CD and booklet in parallel. He selected a variety of photos for possible use. Bill spoke with Danbury city officials and may be testing everything on them. He has begun calling some of the 12 Councils to make introductions. Some hams in other parts of the US are networking with him on their unique activity with Citizen Corps. Regulatory Information John Hennessee continues to strongly encourage non-members who ask for regulatory advice to join or rejoin. Several members renewed this week at his urging. He continues to update the regulatory Web pages and assisted an amateur with covenant concerns in Riverside, CA (N6ZOA). EmComm Grants Dan Miller was assisted in the ARRL booth at the RVer & Yachter convention in Melbourne, by Dick Mondro, W8FQT, Sandy Mondro, KG8HM, and SFL SM Sherri Brower, W4STB. A 50-year ARRL member plaque was presented to Vic Poor, W5SMM, a Winlink 2000 chief developer as nearly the entire Winlink development team watched (they were offering forums and workshops). Dan says this was an outstanding convention! Following it, Dan and Glen Warnstaff, K5CPD, set up the first-ever ARRL Exhibit Booth for the International Association of Emergency Managers in Dallas. A highlight was a QSO with Jim Haynie on a local repeater. At the booth, 28 licensed hams signed in--many licensed a year or less, to talk about communications support for their agencies. And, 73 people completed a survey with valuable statistics for our grant provider. A big hit were the two ARRL lanterns (thanks to Mary and Debra!) raffled off (and then presented) among those completing the survey. Sincerely, Dave Patton, NN1N Special Assistant to the Chief Executive Officer DCP: lk Staff Absentee List All Staff 11/25-11/26 Holiday Mary Hobart 11/29-11/30 Vacation Robert Inderbitzen 12/2-12/3 Vacation Joe Carcia 11/19 Vacation Rick Lindquist 11/22-11/24 Vacation Mark Dzamba 12/24-12/30 Vacation Pam Dzamba 12/24-12/30 Vacation Jon Bloom 11/22-11/24 Vacation Shelly Bloom 11/22-11/24 Vacation Dan Miller 11/22-11/30 Vacation Steve Ewald 11/29-12/6 Vacation Rosalie White 11/24-11/29 Vacation Eileen Sapko 11/18-11/19 Vacation Wayne Mills 11/22-11/30 Vacation Janet Rocco 11/19 Vacation

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[ARRL-ODV:11590] Re: ODV Message Numbering -- Was Ham Radio and Radio Astronomy
by R. B. Vallio 17 Nov '04

17 Nov '04

This has been a known fault since at least 2000, when I first brought it to someone's (probably Barry) attention. I find it to be a nuisance, as one can never be sure if a message was missed by relying on the assigned number. Bob Vallio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelley, Barry, N1VXY" <bshelley(a)arrl.org> To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:38 AM Subject: [ARRL-ODV:11587] Re: Ham Radio and Radio Astronomy Jay: I'm havng the staff look into this. Will let you know if we find anything. For what its worth I don't think there was a number 11583 but it picked up again with 11584. Barry -----Original Message----- From: Bellows, John (Dir, Dakota) Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 12:24 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:11586] Re: Ham Radio and Radio Astronomy I note this is the 2nd ODV with number 11582. Jay -----Original Message----- From: R. B. Vallio [mailto:w6rgg@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 7:32 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:11582] Ham Radio and Radio Astronomy An interesting piece connecting Amateur Radio to Radio Astronomy. Bob http://www.nrao.edu/whatisra/hist_ham.shtml

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[ARRL-ODV:11589] Re: Ham Radio and Radio Astronomy
by Shelley, Barry, N1VXY 17 Nov '04

17 Nov '04

That's the prevailing opinion in ISD as well after reviewing the underlying message delivery sequences. Barry -----Original Message----- From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 2:02 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:11588] Re: Ham Radio and Radio Astronomy I think this sometimes happens when two messages hit the remailer at the same time. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Shelley, Barry, N1VXY Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 1:38 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:11587] Re: Ham Radio and Radio Astronomy Jay: I'm havng the staff look into this. Will let you know if we find anything. For what its worth I don't think there was a number 11583 but it picked up again with 11584. Barry -----Original Message----- From: Bellows, John (Dir, Dakota) Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 12:24 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:11586] Re: Ham Radio and Radio Astronomy I note this is the 2nd ODV with number 11582. Jay -----Original Message----- From: R. B. Vallio [mailto:w6rgg@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 7:32 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:11582] Ham Radio and Radio Astronomy An interesting piece connecting Amateur Radio to Radio Astronomy. Bob http://www.nrao.edu/whatisra/hist_ham.shtml

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