January 2004 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[ARRL-ODV:9895] No Code
by n5ok.ok＠att.net 06 Jan '04

06 Jan '04

If you haven't heard more than enough already, here's some comments from our West Texas SM on the subject. Please note that John's small budget as an SM ran out mid summer and that he made his December road trip on his own nickel. Coy ----------------------- Coy, I am forwarding this to you for your consideration. One of the advantages of being in a non-policy making position. I have several meetings scheduled this month but none of them are ham-related. My January schedule usually involves a bunch of cold, hungry cattle. They are more interested in cow feed then no-code. I spent the first two weeks of December on the road, visiting with six different clubs. I never received a question from the floor concerning the no-code issue. The threat from BPL was the single most discussed topic and most groups were very well informed on the issue. The only mention of no-code came as I was visiting with a gentleman after one of the meetings. When he prefaced his remark to me by stating that he was very opposed to no-code, I thought, " Here it comes", but he surprised me. He wanted to discuss the need for clubs such as his and the ARRL to become involved in follow through training of the new hams that will be entering the system AFTER the elimination of the code. Bottom line seems to be that out here in arch-conservative West Texas, no-code and restructuring doesn't seem to be a hot button issue. Most realize that there will inevitably be changes. I know that you have received input from throughout the Division, some of it pretty adamant, but my experience in recent travels is that it is no longer as a devisive an issue as was thought. Incidently, the ham quoted below is not an ARRL member nor does he even reside in the West Texas Section. I will reply to him and also CC Roy. Tell K5UR that " Pecan John" says hello. 73, John AE5B On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 22:17:45 -0600, "Mike Shelby" <mds(a)htcomp.net> wrote: >MR. Dyer, Sir please vote for NO MORSE code exam in your January> > meeting , Thank You Mike Shelby KD5LDW -- ARRL West Gulf Division Director Coy Day, N5OK 20685 SW 29th St Union City, OK 73090-9726 n5ok(a)arrl.org 405-483-5632

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[ARRL-ODV:9894] Re: Good grief!
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 06 Jan '04

06 Jan '04

"Strictly speaking, 12 AM denotes midnight and 12 PM denotes noon, but there is sufficient confusion over these uses to make it advisable to use 12 Noon and 12 Midnight where clarity is required." Source: American Heritage Dictionary. 1990. 423.1 R573 I was taught that 12 PM was noon and 12 AM was midnight. I guess it's a sign of impending old age when something you learned was an absolute, no longer is. Dave K1ZZ -----Original Message----- From: Weaver, Jim K8JE (DIR, GL) Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 11:10 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:9885] Re: Good grief! For whatever it is worth, I have a policy of replying in some way to every E-mail/snail mail message sent me by a GLD member. Generally speaking, I extend this to nonmembers whom I also let know that I would most likely consider their thinking more seriously if they were members. Aside from the above, I have one comment regarding protocol for communications from the League. I just reviewed the W1AW operating schedule. In full deference to whomever (Joe?) who makes up these schedules, when the heck is 12PM? I know of 12M (noon) and 12MM (midnight) but given that each 12 is right "in between AM and PM (or PM and AM) which of these is 12PM? I fully know about 12:01AM and 12:01PM, but . . . Or have we totally capitulated to ignorant computers that know no more than we program them to know? Seriously, though, shouldn't we technical communications types get it right in what we write? Sorry. Its early in the year and I haven't gotten tired, yet. AMATEUR RADIO: The only fail-safe communications system in the world. ARRL: The reason Amateur Radio is! Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director, Great Lakes Division ARRL 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040-9660, Tel. 513-459-0142, E-mail k8je(a)arrl.org

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[ARRL-ODV:9893] Re: Code blitz
by Art Goddard 06 Jan '04

06 Jan '04

Yes, but, read the fine print - the NCI-promised weight loss comes out of gray matter, not other parts of the anatomy! dARTh p.s., Since NCI told the FCC they could drop Morse testing without any public debate, why the sudden interest in public debate? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kay Craigie" <wt3p(a)comcast.net> To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:32 AM Subject: [ARRL-ODV:9891] Re: Code blitz > Hey Art -- If I join NCI, will that mean I can lose 10 pounds just > because I want it and I want it RIGHT NOW! > > ?? > > 73 - Kay N3KN > >

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[ARRL-ODV:9892] Re: Code blitz
by Art Goddard 06 Jan '04

06 Jan '04

And fringe on all four sides of the surrey, according to N5OK. dARTh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kay Craigie" <wt3p(a)comcast.net> To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:29 AM Subject: [ARRL-ODV:9890] Re: Code blitz > The fun part, if there is one, is observing that some of the anti-code > folks who claim that the code requirement prevents Einsteins like > themselves from making progress in ham radio do just as much bodily harm > to the English language as some of the pro-code folks who argue that > taking away the code requirement would be "dumbing down." My old 7th > grade English teacher would have had the skin off the lot of them. > > There is a fringe on both ends of the rug, eh? > > 73 - Kay N3KN > > > > > > > > >

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[ARRL-ODV:9891] Re: Code blitz
by Kay Craigie 06 Jan '04

06 Jan '04

Hey Art -- If I join NCI, will that mean I can lose 10 pounds just because I want it and I want it RIGHT NOW! ?? 73 - Kay N3KN

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[ARRL-ODV:9890] Re: Code blitz
by Kay Craigie 06 Jan '04

06 Jan '04

The fun part, if there is one, is observing that some of the anti-code folks who claim that the code requirement prevents Einsteins like themselves from making progress in ham radio do just as much bodily harm to the English language as some of the pro-code folks who argue that taking away the code requirement would be "dumbing down." My old 7th grade English teacher would have had the skin off the lot of them. There is a fringe on both ends of the rug, eh? 73 - Kay N3KN

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[ARRL-ODV:9889] Re: Code blitz
by Art Goddard 06 Jan '04

06 Jan '04

Because you're not an NCI member. dARTh ----- Original Message ----- From: <W5JBP(a)aol.com> To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 4:58 AM Subject: [ARRL-ODV:9888] Re: Code blitz > I want to play golf better than Tiger Woods. Why can't I? > > Jim (with intermittent e-mail) >

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[ARRL-ODV:9888] Re: Code blitz
by W5JBP＠aol.com 06 Jan '04

06 Jan '04

I want to play golf better than Tiger Woods. Why can't I? Jim (with intermittent e-mail)

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[ARRL-ODV:9887] Re: [ARRL-ODV:9877] Blocked Messages to KØQB
by R. B. Vallio 06 Jan '04

06 Jan '04

Hi Jay, I don't believe I sent any mail to you, but here's one to see if your spam filter lets me in. Happy New Year, and I look forward to seeing you at Hartford. 73, Bob W6RGG

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[ARRL-ODV:9886] Re: R&R Committee Motion #1
by Rod Stafford W6ROD 06 Jan '04

06 Jan '04

Dick -- The term video was used in the generic sense. However, I think most all of the committee members assumed the "video" would be along the lines produced in "Amateur Radio Today." That is, mostly video CDs but some video tapes for those without CD access. And, just like the previous video, it could be downloaded from the ARRL web site. 73, Rod At 05:30 PM 1/5/2004 -0600, you wrote: >5 JAN, 2004 - 1715 CST > >Hello Rod... > >Was there any discussion about the format(s) to be used for the recruitment >videos? I believe mailing, handling, duplication, and storage of video CDs >is now cheaper (or at least no more expensive) than video tapes. Does >anybody have an idea which format would reach more people? How many >"Amateur Radio Today" CDs were produced and distributed vs video tapes? > >In the public at large, there are probably still more video tape players/ >recorders in use than video CD players/recorders. However, in our target >audience of younger people who are more technically inclined (both >licensed and un-licensed) I would bet the number of DVD and CD >players/recorders now out outnumber the video tape players/recorders. > >Perhaps the format to be used has not yet been decided and the motion has >been kept generic for this reason? > >73 - Dick, W9GIG >

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