November 2003 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[ARRL-ODV:9768] Re: DXCC/IARU scoiety question
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 25 Nov '03

25 Nov '03

Well, in defense of the CIA World Factbook, right now Pitcairn probably isn't high on their priority list for updates. Personally, I do not think IARU membership should be used to support parent country status in the future. The rules prevent making it retroactive, which is fine -- leave what's already there but avoid future hassles over Easter Island, etc. Dave K1ZZ -----Original Message----- From: Frahm, Bruce (Vice Dir, Midwest) Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 12:45 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:9767] Re: DXCC/IARU scoiety question ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ" <dsumner(a)arrl.org> >...... Any separate status based on the existence of a "real" (i.e., not manufactured for the purpose) IARU member-society has already been granted. Dave, I'm unclear on how you are framing this comment -- are you referring to the PIARA and French Polynesia societies, the ability to use IARU membership to somehow support parent country status in future even without the committee rule, or some other reference? (off-subject comments follow) >I really don't know why RSGB signed over its right to represent Pitcairn although I can ask the then-president, Don Beattie (who is now IARU Region 1 Secretary). Tnx to Rod I arranged a sked with Don shortly after he got his G3BJ callsign... >.....I don't think the UK plays any active role in administering telecommunications on Pitcairn (which according to the CIA World Factbook has 17 telephones, all connected to one party line) Well then things have changed since 1979, the year Janice and I were on Windjammer's final Yankee Trader circumnav. We stayed with Tom and Betty Christian and there were 2 party lines, each with 15 or so phones. Theirs was one of 2-3 houses that had phones for both lines. These were crank-type phones and Morse characters were used to ring the various houses on either line. Maybe that's why there are so many hams on Pitcairn? As far as UK administration, they arrange for a school teacher and 7th Day Adventist preacher (and occasionally an RN) from off-island to do a few years' duty there, and hire locals to do other government duties. In '79 radio licensing was through the Governor (who it seems may have been in Fiji) via New Zealand. I hadn't seen any external references to the KH8 society when I read your email, but then read Bernie's latest Weekly DX. Interesting that Larry and Uti Gandy are officers. On the aforementioned YT trip, KH8 was 2 stops after Pitcairn and we lived with Larry and Uti. I operated from Larry's shack. They divorced later, but got back together a few years ago. I think the laid-back family structure that Margaret Mead chronicled is still very much in play in Samoa. 73 Bruce

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[ARRL-ODV:9767] Re: DXCC/IARU scoiety question
by Bruce Frahm K0BJ 25 Nov '03

25 Nov '03

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ" <dsumner(a)arrl.org> >...... Any separate status based on the existence of a "real" (i.e., not manufactured for the purpose) IARU member-society has already been granted. Dave, I'm unclear on how you are framing this comment -- are you referring to the PIARA and French Polynesia societies, the ability to use IARU membership to somehow support parent country status in future even without the committee rule, or some other reference? (off-subject comments follow) >I really don't know why RSGB signed over its right to represent Pitcairn although I can ask the then-president, Don Beattie (who is now IARU Region 1 Secretary). Tnx to Rod I arranged a sked with Don shortly after he got his G3BJ callsign... >.....I don't think the UK plays any active role in administering telecommunications on Pitcairn (which according to the CIA World Factbook has 17 telephones, all connected to one party line) Well then things have changed since 1979, the year Janice and I were on Windjammer's final Yankee Trader circumnav. We stayed with Tom and Betty Christian and there were 2 party lines, each with 15 or so phones. Theirs was one of 2-3 houses that had phones for both lines. These were crank-type phones and Morse characters were used to ring the various houses on either line. Maybe that's why there are so many hams on Pitcairn? As far as UK administration, they arrange for a school teacher and 7th Day Adventist preacher (and occasionally an RN) from off-island to do a few years' duty there, and hire locals to do other government duties. In '79 radio licensing was through the Governor (who it seems may have been in Fiji) via New Zealand. I hadn't seen any external references to the KH8 society when I read your email, but then read Bernie's latest Weekly DX. Interesting that Larry and Uti Gandy are officers. On the aforementioned YT trip, KH8 was 2 stops after Pitcairn and we lived with Larry and Uti. I operated from Larry's shack. They divorced later, but got back together a few years ago. I think the laid-back family structure that Margaret Mead chronicled is still very much in play in Samoa. 73 Bruce

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[ARRL-ODV:9766] Fwd: letters
by Tom Frenaye 25 Nov '03

25 Nov '03

>Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:37:59 -0500 >From: Derek Riker <derek.riker(a)chwatco.com> >To: frenaye(a)pcnet.com >Subject: letters > >Tom, > >Chris Imlay asked me to get back to you on your question regarding a "magic number" for co-sponsorship on letters to the Hill. >Unfortunately, I don't think there is one. Every office is different. >I know some that would sign on board with one request and others that aren't swayed by a dozen. It would be safe to say though, that if an office got upwards of 50 letters (not pre-written or mass mailed style) on a non-controversial topic like the Spectrum Act, that they would be upwards of 90% sure to co-sponsor. > >Derek ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[ARRL-ODV:9765] Re: DXCC/IARU scoiety question
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 25 Nov '03

25 Nov '03

I wasn't involved in the committee discussions at the time, and I don't know the arguments that were advanced in favor of using the IARU society test. However, as long as it's not made retroactive (and there's a rule against doing so), dropping the IARU society test from here on out would have no negative effect that I can think of. Any separate status based on the existence of a "real" (i.e., not manufactured for the purpose) IARU member-society has already been granted. I really don't know why RSGB signed over its right to represent Pitcairn although I can ask the then-president, Don Beattie (who is now IARU Region 1 Secretary). RSGB is a member of Region 3, but by giving up Pitcairn it is now reduced to using Chagos (Diego Garcia) as its sole justification for being a Region 3 member. I don't think the UK plays any active role in administering telecommunications on Pitcairn (which according to the CIA World Factbook has 17 telephones, all connected to one party line), so they don't have quite the same problem that the ARRL would have if American Samoa were separately represented to the FCC. Dave K1ZZ -----Original Message----- From: Frahm, Bruce (Vice Dir, Midwest) Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 5:32 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:9760] DXCC/IARU scoiety question Tnx to Dave for the info on the American Samoa assn. I can understand the awkwardness of not providing them a letter such as RSGB did with PIARA, and the hassles of make-work that might come up from time to time. But -- didn't the DXCC revamp committee have valid reasons for including the IARU society test in the mix for a "Point 1" country? I don't claim any great pool of knowledge or recollection. I wasn't a member of that committee but I did sit in on a number of their meetings..... There were reasons for having IARU membership serve as grounds for parent country status. If ANY of them still have validity, and if methods exist to thwart inappropriate applications to IARU, wouldn't it be worth occasional embarrassment and hassle to maintain the rules as is? I'd like to hear more committee members' recollections of the reasons for including the IARU society test. Also as a sidelight Dave (or Rod), do you think there was an element of a "gift to DXers" counteracting what would (or should) have otherwise been a refusal to sanction PIARA, in RSGB's decision? Bruce

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[ARRL-ODV:9764] In News
by Kustosik, Lisa, KA1UFZ 25 Nov '03

25 Nov '03

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Lisa Kustosik and the Election Committee would like to thank Greg Kwasowski, Mark Dzamba, Lynne Anderson, Helen Dalton, Jeri Forrest, Karen Isakson, and Gail Iannone for making ballot counting go so smoothly this year. Thanks also to the managers who also contributed to the effort by supplying the staff. Development The 2004 Spectrum Defense campaign has reached $98,819 from 2,233 donors. The average contribution is just over $40. The Diamond Club renewal contributions continue to come in. The program now totals 910 active members. Development is finalizing a grant application to the Office of Domestic Preparedness for over $2 million in a two-year program. The thrust of the grant is to further the goals of Citizen Corps by convening Leadership Forums in Citizen Corps locales to present the fundamentals of Amateur Radio and its Emergency Communications capabilities, and to extend those forum to train teachers and youth organization leaders in Amateur Radio and Emcomm and reach school-age kids to get involved in Amateur Radio and public service. Production/Editorial The January 2004 issue of QST has been released to the printer. Production work is wrapping up on the January/February issues of QEX and NCJ. A new printing of Digital Processing Technology has been released to the printer. Rick Lindquist reports The ARRL Letter, Vol 22, No 46, distributed Nov 21 to 66,784 subscribers, up 172 from the prior week. Because of the holiday, the next edition of the Letter will go out Wednesday, Nov 26. Rick wrote/edited several news stories during the week, including a report on the FCC Report and Order in the expansion of 5-GHz Part 15 spectrum, the ISS turns five (and the permanent presence of ham radio in space marks three years), ARRL Pres Jim Haynie's attendance at a Homeland Security confab in Austin, TX, Nov 4-6, and the Hudson Division balloting. Rick also edited "The Amateur Amateur" Web column for November and wrapped up "Happenings" for the January issue. With voiceover assistance from Jennifer Hagy, Rick voiced, produced and edited ARRL Audio News for Nov 21. The list of repeater owners, etc who have indicated they're using ARRL Audio News in full or in part has grown to 140. Dave Hassler put the finishing touches on his QST column, "ARRL in Action, and worked with Dave Patton and Wayne Mills on a Logbook of The World update story for the ARRLWeb. Sales & Marketing Like many retail businesses, ARRL enjoys a jolt of direct sales around the Thanksgiving holiday. To get the most out of the buying climate, there is a heightened marketing and advertising effort: catalogs, display advertising, mailings, email solicitations, and associated special promotions. On Thursday and Friday, Bob Inderbitzen crafted two email solicitations sent to ARRL members. He included new product offerings and a couple of ARRL e-Store promotions. The 4-day period following these e-mailings generated $25,000 in gross sales. ARRL e-Store Holiday specials are posted online at HYPERLINK "http://www.arrl.org/catalog" www.arrl.org/catalog. The winter edition of the ARRL publications catalog has been shared with the Internet search company, Google. They will soon post the catalog to their searchable catalog site, catalogs.google.com. Some additional updating was completed to the ARRLWeb information for advertisers. Included is the 2004 ad reservations schedule and sworn circulation statement, HYPERLINK "http://www.arrl.org/ads" www.arrl.org/ads. Bob turned in material for designing the cover of the 8th edition of The ARRL Operating Manual. The book will be available in February (ARRL Order No. 9132). Bob and Di produced new ads for January QST featuring some new products. ARRL receives a quarterly commission for sales of ARRL sportswear and related merchandise sold and fulfilled by Barker Specialty Company. The third quarter commission just posted at $1,941 ($7,204 YTD). The following new items are all available for ordering via the ARRLWeb Catalog: International Antenna Collection, IN STOCK, HYPERLINK "http://www.arrl.org/catalog/?item=9156"http://www.arrl.org/catalog/?item=9156; Passport to World Band Radio, IN STOCK, HYPERLINK "http://www.arrl.org/catalog/?item=9135"http://www.arrl.org/catalog/?item=9135; Radio Amateur Callbook CD-ROM (2004), AVAILABLE LATE-NOV, HYPERLINK "http://www.arrl.org/catalog/?item=9194"http://www.arrl.org/catalog/?item=9194; 2004 Super Frequency List CD-ROM, AVAILABLE MID/LATE DEC, HYPERLINK "http://www.arrl.org/catalog/?item=9185"http://www.arrl.org/catalog/?item=9185; 2004 Shortwave Frequency Guide, AVAILABLE MID/LATE DEC, HYPERLINK "http://www.arrl.org/catalog/?item=9172"http://www.arrl.org/catalog/?item=9172 Bob attended the radio club meetings of the Worcester Polytechnic Institute Wireless Association and the Central Mass ARA. Our own Ed Hare, W1RFI, was a guest speaker at the CMARA meeting, presenting on the topic of Broadband over Power Lines. Bob videotaped Ed's excellent presentation, hoping we can make copies available to other clubs. Carol Patton is out of the office on an extended leave of absence. Any advertising related matters usually addressed with her should go to Deb Jahnke. Membership Services Awards Branch WAC QSL Cards Checked66Code Prof. Certs.4RCCs525-Year Member Awards1740-Year Member Awards1250-Year Member Awards2860-Year Member Awards1170-Year Member Award1 LTMA Inquiries2A-1 Op. Noms.2Awards Mailed61 Processing Status: Current or up to three weeks. For the coming weekPackage and mail all the LTMAs, VUCC, and foreign WAC awards. Contest Branch We continued data entry for the 2003 November Sweepstakes and continued mailing foreign certificates for the 2003 ARRL DX contest. We printed replacement certificates and began mailing them. The 2003 June VHF QSO party results for the web were finalized and opened to the membership. The lines scores for inclusion with the PDFs of the June and August contest QST articles were prepared and sent to Production. DXCC Branch For the week of: November 23, 2003Beginning Cards150,550Cards Received5,253Cards Processed11,698Ending Cards144,105 Applications Pending1,198Processing Time8.4 Weeks Year-to-date (2003) Cards Received587,601Cards Returned656,652 DXCC is currently mailing applications received on September 25, 2003. DXCC is currently entering cards received on September 30, 2003. Heather Dzamba spent 2 hours conducting tours around HQ. QSL Bureau QSL Service Status: Current. Cards mailed as of 11/23/03: 1,220,225. No cards were mailed this week. W1AW W1AW performed another Frequency Measuring Test on Wednesday (11/19) at 9:45 PM EST. There were simultaneous transmissions on four (4) HF bands (80, 40, 20 and 15 meters). To date, two (2) submissions from participants have been received. A very special thanks to Mike Tracy, KC1SX for his conducting the initial frequency tests on the Harris equipment and actual frequency measuring performed during the FMT. Joe created the texts for the December W1AW Qualifying Runs. He updated the web code practice files as well as began troubleshooting some problems with the M-Squared rotator control boxes. For the 2003 FMT, Joe had to control the actual keying of the Harris equipment for the transmissions. He also worked the Friday late afternoon/night shift for a vacationing Scott Gee. Scott worked on slow and fast code practice files for the latter part of the month of November and early December. Scott was also the official frequency logger during the FMT. He also handled some evening phone sales calls in the 5 PM to 8 PM time slot. W1AW Telephone Sales year to date (2003): $32,217. Field & Educational Services F&ES had a meeting to share ideas on handling spam and the high number of members' email. The Russian ARISS team worked on clearances needed for hardware to fly, and should be done in about 2 weeks. Linda and Rosalie sent NASA's new ARISS lithograph, along with thank yous, to schools whose photos were used on the litho -- one school is continuing with its space activities. Mark and Rosalie met with Mary Hobart on grant ideas for youth programs involving curriculum and public service. EmComm Grants Dan Miller is doing the seminar for nearly 150 ARES/RACES people in Salt Lake City during an event sponsored and presented by the Utah Department of Public Safety. The newly revised Level II books have arrived in time for courses that start November 25. Rosalie and Dan reviewed an article by Gordon West on our courses for possible use in CQ. Graduate totals follows: UTC graduates Level I 448 Level II 499 Level III 274 Totals 1221 CNCS graduates Level I 81 Level II 25 Level III 5 Totals 111 Amateur Radio Education & Technology Program Mark Spencer sent letters to Big Project teachers who didn't respond to previous messages, and one has already responded. Mark provided help with presentation development for two hams wanting to pitch ham radio in their schools; the SMs were informed. He participated in concept development for a grant proposal encouraging emcomm instruction in schools. He received a request from the French equivalent of QST to publish the no-solder CPO story. Field & Education Support Team Gail Iannone sent 6 hamfest approval letters and 1 convention approval letter to sponsoring committees confirming the Division Directors approval of the events as ARRL-sanctioned, and coordinated travel for Dan Miller to be the HQ rep at the New York/Long Island Section Convention on January 18 in Oyster Bay, NY. She helped count ballots for the Tennessee and Kansas SM elections and the Hudson Division Director election. Jean Wolfgang has received JOTA survey/reports from all but 7 states: RI, MD, IA, DE, AR, AK, HI. She has received a total of 107 returns to date. She has also responded to emails pertaining to awards, ARISS, Kids Day, and SCR. Linda Mullally updated 24 club records this week, with 4 reactivations. She also registered 11 Volunteer Instructors and 1 schoolteacher. Mary Lau prepared contributions acknowledgments and consulted with Tom Frenaye on Bill Orr Award balloting and upcoming Foundation Board preparations. Mary completed file reorganization on Margie's workstation and processed the following SSC renewals, by Section: Citrus Belt ARC (Orange); Mount Tom ARA (WMA); and Shreveport ARA (LA). Tom Cote of West Hartford will assist part-time for a few weeks with club data processes beginning November 24. Field Organization/Public Service Team Leona Adams headed up SM election ballot counting for Tennessee and Kansas; thanks to Chuck Skolaut, Gail Iannone and Mary Lau for assisting. Larry Marshall, WB4NCW, was elected SM of Tennessee, and Kansas SM Ron Cowan, KB0DTI, was re-elected. An article for the ARRL Web and a bulletin were prepared when results were known; the SMs' terms begin January 1. Chuck Skolaut compiled the monthly ARRL Monitoring Report. An OO in WNY relayed a thank-you note received from a ham to whom the OO had recently sent an Advisory Notice. The ham was out of the band, and wrote (in part): "Now that I'm aware there are problems, I'll be spending the weekend doing a full alignment. I appreciate your dedication and the notice as this is the first indication I had that there was still a problem with my radio." Chuck saw a large increase in OO reports this week -- nearly 60 were received. Steve Ewald finished January QST work including the two-part article about ham radio and the Incident Command System by Dave Thorne, K6SOJ, Sacramento Valley SEC. The first part in December's Public Service column generated interest among those active in emcomm including editors of the Amateur Radio Emergency Communication Courses. Over the last couple of weeks, a dozen SMs have sent 21 e-mails to their Section's members by way of the ARRL Web. This time period corresponded with their monthly Section News schedule, so many more SMs opted to report timely news in this format. Regulatory Information John Hennessee has completed the Reciprocal Licensing FAQ to be posted soon on the Web. This is part of review of all regulatory pages maintained by F&ES. He also assisted an amateur with a local government zoning problem in Bronx, NY (W2RUB) and covenant problems in Cypress, CA (N6ZIU) and Palm Desert, CA (KA6BJO). CCE Jerry Ellis prepped weekly graduation certs and ID cards for mailing with grant refund checks. He did mentor placement and roster preparation for Tuesday's opening of the Level II course. 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[ARRL-ODV:9763] Fwd: FW: Wireless Bureau reorganized
by BFITPC＠aol.com 24 Nov '03

24 Nov '03

This tidbit has been in the works for some time, and the details as to where WE fit aren't clear yet. Chris W3KD > RCR WirelessNews > Wireless Bureau reorganized > November 24 13:31:00, 2003 > <<...OLE_Obj...>> <<A HREF="http://rcrnews.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?newsId=16049&print=Y">http://rcrnews.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?newsId=16049&print=Y</A>> > > WASHINGTON-The Federal Communications Commission today said the Wireless > Bureau has been reorganized to more effectively support strategic goals > regarding broadband, competition, spectrum, media, homeland security and agency > modernization. > > The FCC said the scope and size of the Wireless Telecommunications Bureau's > larger divisions have been reduced to improve managerial oversight, and that > organizational substructures, such as separate branches under the division > level, have been eliminated. > > The agency said the reorganization does not add or remove functions from the > bureau's portfolio and has been accomplished through the redeployment of > existing positions. > > "This reorganization provides the Wireless Bureau with a structure to > address the dynamic challenges facing a 21st century regulatory agency," stated > John Muleta, chief of the WTB. "The result is a mission-driven team that will be > innovative in its approach to regulatory policies and customer service." > > As part of the reorganization, the Bureau now includes the following six > Divisions: > > Auctions and Spectrum Access Division-Promotes transparent, efficient and > effective access to spectrum, through the development of policy initiatives and > legal analysis, as well as procedures and administrative capability, to > implement the FCC's competitive bidding authority and the transition of spectrum > to new and innovative uses. Addresses issues relating to statutory authority > and objectives, Commission rules and policies, and the planning, design, and > conduct of spectrum auctions. Margaret Wiener, formerly Chief of the Auctions > and Industry Analysis Division, will be the Division Chief. > > Broadband Division-Facilitates the rapid, widespread deployment of wireless > broadband services to rural and metropolitan areas. Consolidates the policy, > regulatory and licensing functions for wireless broadband services, excluding > public safety and critical infrastructure services. Joel Taubenblatt, > formerly Deputy Chief of the Policy Division, will be the Division Chief. > > Mobility Division-Promotes competitive and innovative mobile radio services > and maximizes efficient use of the mobile radio spectrum. Consolidates the > policy, regulatory and licensing functions for wireless mobile services, > excluding public safety and critical infrastructure services. Roger Noel, formerly > Deputy Chief of the Commercial Wireless Division, will be the Division Chief. > > Public Safety and Critical Infrastructure Division-Consolidates wireless > homeland security and public safety issues and outreach within one Division, > including E911 and interoperability issues, as well as policy, regulatory and > licensing functions for both public safety entities and the nation's critical > infrastructure industries. D'Wana Terry, formerly Chief of the Public Safety > and Private Wireless Division, will be the Division Chief. > > Spectrum and Competition Policy Division-Formulates and implements > innovative spectrum, competition, and infrastructure policies that promote access to > and efficient use of radio spectrum for wireless telecommunications and > encourage competition in the communications marketplace. Issues include Spectrum > Policy Task Force implementation, wireless/wireline convergence, secondary > markets, wireless consumer policy, competition reporting, facilities and tower > siting, and broad policy guidance for future technological developments. > William Kunze, formerly Chief of the Commercial Wireless Division, will be the > Division Chief. > > Spectrum Management Resources and Technologies Division-Combines the > bureau's information technology, licensing support, and auctions support and > outreach functions (currently divided between two Divisions) in order to improve > planning and implementation of the Bureau's unique and highly integrated system > needs. John Chudovan, formerly Chief of the Data Management Division, will be > the Division Chief. > > The FCC said the reorganization of the bureau was approved by the commission > on November 13. > >

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[ARRL-ODV:9762] Re: Background American Samoa
by James Weaver 24 Nov '03

24 Nov '03

Interesting, Walt. AMATEUR RADIO: The only fail-safe communications system in the world. ARRL: The reason Amateur Radio is! Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director, Great Lakes Division ARRL 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040-9660, Tel. 513-459-0142, E-mail k8je(a)arrl.org

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[ARRL-ODV:9761] Re: Background American Samoa
by Walton Stinson 24 Nov '03

24 Nov '03

There was an article on the front page of last Thursday's Wall Street Journal about the difficulty (and controversy) surrounding what constitutes a country. The reporter interviewed Sanford Smith, who is a California lawyer and ham on the board of the Traveler's Club (there is a Sanford Smith in our member database, N7PIB). Membership in the club requires visiting 100 countries. According to the article, Mr. Smith is the most influential member of their board when it comes to determining what constitutes a country. Mr. Smith, in turn, credits the League as the model on which their system is based. They require a resident population, so a lot of the entities on our list are not on theirs. Three countries that they recognize that we don't: Lampedusa, Srpska, and Transnistria. 73, Walt W0CP ________________________________ I've stopped 35,726 spam messages. You can too! Get protection at http://www.w0cp.com/mailwasher.htm -----Original Message----- From: James Weaver [mailto:k8je@arrl.org] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 10:32 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:9759] Re: Background American Samoa Dave, Thanks for the information and perspective. As to your later message on this subject, I agree with considering a fix. Jim W. AMATEUR RADIO: The only fail-safe communications system in the world. ARRL: The reason Amateur Radio is! Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director, Great Lakes Division ARRL 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040-9660, Tel. 513-459-0142, E-mail k8je(a)arrl.org <mailto:k8je@arrl.org>

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[ARRL-ODV:9760] DXCC/IARU scoiety question
by Bruce Frahm K0BJ 24 Nov '03

24 Nov '03

Tnx to Dave for the info on the American Samoa assn. I can understand the awkwardness of not providing them a letter such as RSGB did with PIARA, and the hassles of make-work that might come up from time to time. But -- didn't the DXCC revamp committee have valid reasons for including the IARU society test in the mix for a "Point 1" country? I don't claim any great pool of knowledge or recollection. I wasn't a member of that committee but I did sit in on a number of their meetings..... There were reasons for having IARU membership serve as grounds for parent country status. If ANY of them still have validity, and if methods exist to thwart inappropriate applications to IARU, wouldn't it be worth occasional embarrassment and hassle to maintain the rules as is? I'd like to hear more committee members' recollections of the reasons for including the IARU society test. Also as a sidelight Dave (or Rod), do you think there was an element of a "gift to DXers" counteracting what would (or should) have otherwise been a refusal to sanction PIARA, in RSGB's decision? Bruce

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[ARRL-ODV:9758] Re: BPL du Canada
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 24 Nov '03

24 Nov '03

Coincidentally, Ken Pulfer made the following comment to me last Friday: "I expect the BPL debate to be in full swing here in the next few months, as it looks like the first trials in Canada are about to start, and one of the major electrical utilities has apparently expressed an interest in competing with the telephone and cable companies for internet access." Ken was the IARU representative at the ITU-R Study Group 1 and WP 1A/B/C meetings about three weeks ago that dealt, among other things, with BPL/PLT. Dave K1ZZ -----Original Message----- From: Weaver, Jim K8JE (DIR, GL) Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 12:57 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:9757] BPL du Canada I wonder if our Maple Leaf colleagues are following this situation. http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/11/21/Consumers/power_lines031121 AMATEUR RADIO: The only fail-safe communications system in the world. ARRL: The reason Amateur Radio is! Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director, Great Lakes Division ARRL 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040-9660, Tel. 513-459-0142, E-mail k8je(a)arrl.org

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