August 2002 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[ARRL-ODV:7695] Re: Emergency Communications Training Grant Update
by jmax＠attglobal.net 20 Aug '02

20 Aug '02

I agree with Rick that we need a standardized answer so that we will all speak from the same page. I have also received email on the subject and have heard of grumbles elsewhere. Personally, though, I'm satisfied with the numbers, after discussing it on the phone with staff. I also did some further searching and Dave and Mark were right - we did get a copy of Mary's proposal. I'm not the only one who couldn't find the document at first - it wasn't in our notebooks, but instead was distributed as a separate document. It was printed on punched paper, which may make it easier to find in your stack of paper. The numbers are all there, but I have been cautioned to keep the details of the proposal confidential - which is another reason why we need a standardized answer. We shouldn't be deciding individually what is OK to release and what is not! The grant includes items such as (first year figures) 1. Salary for a new postion of project coordinator. ($55k) 2. Review of curriculum and printing of training manual ($10k) 3. Special training for new mentors ($25k) 4. Promotion/recruitment ($18k) 5. Miscellaneous ($32k) My understanding is that these figures are subject to change as a result of negotiation with the government. Also, unexpended monies are to be returned to the granting agency. 73. Jim, W6CF K5ur(a)aol.com wrote: > Hi All: > > Take a look at the message below I received from one of the folks in my Division. Hits on some issues Maxwell brought up. > > Dave, would you please ask Mary to draft a response to this gentleman answering his three questions. Might be good for all to see the reply so we answer the same way in the future. I think Mary is on the ODV and will get a copy of this , too. Not sure. > > Thanks. > 73, > Rick - K5UR > __________________________ > > Subj: EMCOMM Grants - let's do the math > Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:34:33 AM Eastern Standard Time > From: "Thomas M. Delker" <k1ky(a)bellsouth.net> > To: k5ur(a)arrl.net > Cc: kb4ka(a)arrl.net > Sent from the Internet (Details) > > > Rick, > > I am watching with interest the handling of the funds given to ARRL by United Technologies and the recent Homeland Security grants. > > According to what I am reading, here is what the perception to the average ARRL member is: > > United Technologies gave $33,000 and ARRL says this will train 250 volunteers for EMCOMM I. $33,000 / 250 = $132.00 per student. The cost at $45.00 * 250 = $11,250, which leaves $21,750 left on the table. > > Homeland Security gave $181,900 and ARRL says this will train 1700 volunteers for EMCOMM I plus a little extra training for mentoring, etc. $181,900 / 1700 = $107.00 per student The cost at $45.00 * 1700 = $76,500, which leaves $105,400 on the table. > > This does not give a good perception to the average ARRL member, and it looks like ALL of the money basically goes back to the ARRL. > > Now, if I were a fly on the wall in the boardroom, I might think: > > 1. How can we train a maximum number of volunteers with this money? > 2. Given the sheer volume of guaranteed students in the seats, can't we negotiate a much better price per student for this training? > 3. What is going to be done with the remaining amounts of the money and will it be used for the original purpose intended by the donor? > > It seems that in CT, you should be able to train at least 733 students (without discount) and with the Homeland grant, 4042 students. > > Now, I understand that there will be some of the Homeland money set aside for a "program administrator", and if so, where do I apply? > > Obviously I don't have all of the facts, but that is "How it seems to us" out here on the firing line. > > Given that we are now entering into "donations" and the administration thereof territory, there will be many scrutinizing eyes on how this is handled and administered. > > I know you will keep a good eye out on this. Nothing less than full disclosure on the handling of these funds will be acceptable to the membership. > > If and when you have some answers to the 3 questions posed above, please share them with us! > > 73, > > Tom

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[ARRL-ODV:7694] FCC goes to school
by Fried Heyn(3rd VP) 20 Aug '02

20 Aug '02

FYI (from the CGC Communicator #533)...73/Fried(º¿º) FCC CHAIRMAN POWELL OUTLINES CRITICAL ELEMENTS OF FUTURE SPECTRUM POLICY FCC Chairman Michael Powell has outlined critical elements for future spectrum policy initiatives at the Commission. Basically, he envisions more efficient use of existing spectrum (getting "more use out of spectrum that 80 percent of the time lies fallow"), cites a need for the continued use of unlicensed bands, asks for a shift from a "command and control" model of regulation to market-based mechanisms and favors the concept of spectrum sharing between commercial and government users. He also wants the Commission to allow room for the unforeseen. <http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-225310A1.doc> http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-225310A1.doc ****************************************************************** "FCC UNIVERSITY" LAUNCHED - CONTINUED LEARNING FOR FCC STAFF Last Thursday, the Commission launched "FCC University" to ensure that FCC staff has the cutting edge knowledge and skills to respond to the challenges of the communications field in the 21st century. FCC employees can choose from a vast range of courses on generally applicable subjects as well as sections specifically geared to meet the educational needs of engineers, economists and lawyers. <http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-225430A1.doc> http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-225430A1.doc

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[ARRL-ODV:7693] Re: Emergency Communications Training Grant Update
by K5ur＠aol.com 20 Aug '02

20 Aug '02

Hi All: Take a look at the message below I received from one of the folks in my Division. Hits on some issues Maxwell brought up. Dave, would you please ask Mary to draft a response to this gentleman answering his three questions. Might be good for all to see the reply so we answer the same way in the future. I think Mary is on the ODV and will get a copy of this , too. Not sure. Thanks. 73, Rick - K5UR __________________________ Subj: EMCOMM Grants - let's do the math Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:34:33 AM Eastern Standard Time From: "Thomas M. Delker" <k1ky(a)bellsouth.net> To: k5ur(a)arrl.net Cc: kb4ka(a)arrl.net Sent from the Internet (Details) Rick, I am watching with interest the handling of the funds given to ARRL by United Technologies and the recent Homeland Security grants. According to what I am reading, here is what the perception to the average ARRL member is: United Technologies gave $33,000 and ARRL says this will train 250 volunteers for EMCOMM I. $33,000 / 250 = $132.00 per student. The cost at $45.00 * 250 = $11,250, which leaves $21,750 left on the table. Homeland Security gave $181,900 and ARRL says this will train 1700 volunteers for EMCOMM I plus a little extra training for mentoring, etc. $181,900 / 1700 = $107.00 per student The cost at $45.00 * 1700 = $76,500, which leaves $105,400 on the table. This does not give a good perception to the average ARRL member, and it looks like ALL of the money basically goes back to the ARRL. Now, if I were a fly on the wall in the boardroom, I might think: 1. How can we train a maximum number of volunteers with this money? 2. Given the sheer volume of guaranteed students in the seats, can't we negotiate a much better price per student for this training? 3. What is going to be done with the remaining amounts of the money and will it be used for the original purpose intended by the donor? It seems that in CT, you should be able to train at least 733 students (without discount) and with the Homeland grant, 4042 students. Now, I understand that there will be some of the Homeland money set aside for a "program administrator", and if so, where do I apply? Obviously I don't have all of the facts, but that is "How it seems to us" out here on the firing line. Given that we are now entering into "donations" and the administration thereof territory, there will be many scrutinizing eyes on how this is handled and administered. I know you will keep a good eye out on this. Nothing less than full disclosure on the handling of these funds will be acceptable to the membership. If and when you have some answers to the 3 questions posed above, please share them with us! 73, Tom

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[ARRL-ODV:7692] Re: Ready For e-QST
by dick＠pobox.com 20 Aug '02

20 Aug '02

19 AUG, 2002 - 2110 CDT Hello Art... How just like a Californian to get his/her geography of the rest of this country messed up! :) Almost all the remaining users of corncobs these days reside in the very rustic hill country areas of AR, MO, KY, TN, WV, NC, SC, GA, AL, and PA. I grew up in central Missouri hearing about corncob pipes (never saw one smoked), and brown and white corncobs for the personal use (never seen them used this way) you previously described. I understand you use the brown ones first, followed by one white one to make sure you are finished. In fact, I would not be surprised if a few Missouri ozarks souvenir shops are still selling a sealed package of three cobs (2 red, 1 white) for emergency use. There may be a dozen or so users of corncobs left in far southern IL in the hills just north of the Ohio River. But not enough to service an export market to California. 73 - Dick, W9GIG

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[ARRL-ODV:7691] Re: Ready For e-QST
by W3KD＠aol.com 19 Aug '02

19 Aug '02

In a message dated 8/19/2002 1:59:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, w6xd(a)attbi.com writes: Toilet paper? I have a supply of corncobs sent from Illinois each month. I'm a ham and I stick to tradition! Art, you make things just too easy. Chris. P.S. Excellent jpg! some offices are just really great places to work.

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[ARRL-ODV:7690] Re: Ready For e-QST
by Sandy Donahue 19 Aug '02

19 Aug '02

No-He uses E-toilet paper. 73 Sandy --- dick(a)pobox.com wrote: > 19 AUG, 2002 - 1240 CDT > > Hello Art... > > It looks like one very important device is missing from that > picture... > Where's the toilet paper holder? I hope the keyboard/monitor set-up > is merely blocking the view. > > 73 - Dick, W9GIG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com

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[ARRL-ODV:7689] Re: Ready for e-QST
by Mendelsohn, Stephen A. 19 Aug '02

19 Aug '02

Should you also choose to take your meals in this emporium, this now makes you the ultimate input/output device. -73- Steve, W2ML -----Original Message----- From: Art Goddard [mailto:w6xd@attbi.com] Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 12:26 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:7686] Ready for e-QST I'm now ready for the electronic version of QST... bring it on! 73, dARTh

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[ARRL-ODV:7688] Re: Ready For e-QST
by Art Goddard 19 Aug '02

19 Aug '02

Toilet paper? I have a supply of corncobs sent from Illinois each month. I'm a ham and I stick to tradition! 73, dARTh ----- Original Message ----- From: <dick(a)pobox.com> To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 10:45 AM Subject: [ARRL-ODV:7687] Re: Ready For e-QST 19 AUG, 2002 - 1240 CDT Hello Art... It looks like one very important device is missing from that picture... Where's the toilet paper holder? I hope the keyboard/monitor set-up is merely blocking the view. 73 - Dick, W9GIG

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[ARRL-ODV:7687] Re: Ready For e-QST
by dick＠pobox.com 19 Aug '02

19 Aug '02

19 AUG, 2002 - 1240 CDT Hello Art... It looks like one very important device is missing from that picture... Where's the toilet paper holder? I hope the keyboard/monitor set-up is merely blocking the view. 73 - Dick, W9GIG

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[ARRL-ODV:7686] Ready for e-QST
by Art Goddard 19 Aug '02

19 Aug '02

I'm now ready for the electronic version of QST... bring it on! 73, dARTh

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