December 2002 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[ARRL-ODV:8144] Re: Interesting Idea
by Greg Milnes 28 Dec '02

28 Dec '02

Sounds good to me the have a North American Radio day. I no longer burden my letter carrier with World Radio. 73/Greg W7OZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Stafford W6ROD" <w6rod(a)ix.netcom.com> To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 12:10 AM Subject: [ARRL-ODV:8133] Interesting Idea > I just got finished reading an article in Worldradio, January 03 edition > (page 6), about a proposal for a North American school radio day. The > article is authored by Ginger Eldridge KC5MTI. Couple of practical but > small problems with the details as outlined but it sounds like it could be > worked into a pretty neat deal. Anyone else read it? > > Would be interesting to tie this concept into ARISS contacts with some > schools. 73, Rod > > > >

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[ARRL-ODV:8142] Re: Hacker Kevin Mitnick to get h
by W3KD＠aol.com 27 Dec '02

27 Dec '02

In a message dated 12/27/2002 1:39:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, sysop(a)bfdin.com writes: > I can understand the ban on Mitnick not being able to use computers or > having internet access during the terms of his probation. > > But I don't agree that he shouldn't have been able to renew his amateur > license. > > Just one more proof that ours is a very wide and diverse group. <grin> > > Bill makes an interesting point, assuming that Mitnick didn't use amateur radio to coordinate hacking activities (which I don't recall one way or another). But FCC has in the past taken the position that, because the Communications Act requires FCC to determine that licenses must be issued only to persons with the proper character qualifications to be a licensee, non-FCC related felonies, if adjudicated, and if involving moral turpitude, will adversely affect someone's qualifications to acquire or continue to hold a license (in any service). It was on this basis that KV4FZ was denied renewal in the first place. Mitnick's actions were felonies, and they clearly involved fraud, a crime involving moral turpitude. You be the judge! Chris

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[ARRL-ODV:8141] Re: Hacker Kevin Mitnick to get ham license back
by W3KD＠aol.com 27 Dec '02

27 Dec '02

In a message dated 12/27/2002 12:37:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, w6xd(a)attbi.com writes: > > Chris, didn't the EC ask you to contact both Kevin and Herb to convince > them that Freebanding could fulfill all of their hobbyist radio urges, > without any of the responsibilities attendant to an Amateur Radio license? > > Good plan, Art. Perhaps they could conduct joint DXpeditions for freeband contacts, entering North Korea or Iraq without authority. Shocking how two different administrative law judges concluded that in miraculously short periods of time, these two have rehabilitated themselves and become productive, contributing members of society. What models of good behavior for young people in Amateur Radio! Chris

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[ARRL-ODV:8140] Re: Hacker Kevin Mitnick to get ham license back
by dick＠pobox.com 27 Dec '02

27 Dec '02

27 DEC, 2002 - 1325 CST I think Kevin Mitnick could make a fortune developing and maintaining computer software that would accurately screen and destroy SPAM email and then attack the true sources (servers) of this growing flood. Perhaps the government should challenge him to do it, with a sizable cash reward for his success? 73 - Dick, W9GIG

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[ARRL-ODV:8139] Re: Hacker Kevin Mitnick to get h
by sysop＠bfdin.com 27 Dec '02

27 Dec '02

I can understand the ban on Mitnick not being able to use computers or having internet access during the terms of his probation. But I don't agree that he shouldn't have been able to renew his amateur license. Just one more proof that ours is a very wide and diverse group. <grin> - Bill N3LLR AR>The Washington Post carried the AP story this morning, which somewhat merged AR>the concepts of "computer hacker" and "ham radio enthusiast". Mitnick's AR>attorney was none other than the infamous (and very strange) Lauren Colby, AR>who has written a book about how smoking is not harmful to your health. AR>Lauren is also the attorney for Herb Schoenbaum. AR>Chris

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[ARRL-ODV:8138] Re: Hacker Kevin Mitnick to get ham license back
by Art Goddard 27 Dec '02

27 Dec '02

Chris, didn't the EC ask you to contact both Kevin and Herb to convince them that Freebanding could fulfill all of their hobbyist radio urges, without any of the responsibilities attendant to an Amateur Radio license? 73, dARTh p.s. we just love your attorney "peer review" vignette ----- Original Message ----- From: W3KD(a)aol.com To: arrl-odv Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 9:18 AM Subject: [ARRL-ODV:8137] Re: Hacker Kevin Mitnick to get ham license back In a message dated 12/27/2002 11:31:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, jmax(a)attglobal.net writes: The following showed up on three different mailing lists this morning. Apparently Kevin Mitnick will be getting his ham license back. According to the FCC database, however, his reactivation hasn't happened yet. The Washington Post carried the AP story this morning, which somewhat merged the concepts of "computer hacker" and "ham radio enthusiast". Mitnick's attorney was none other than the infamous (and very strange) Lauren Colby, who has written a book about how smoking is not harmful to your health. Lauren is also the attorney for Herb Schoenbaum. Chris

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[ARRL-ODV:8137] Re: Hacker Kevin Mitnick to get ham license back
by W3KD＠aol.com 27 Dec '02

27 Dec '02

In a message dated 12/27/2002 11:31:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, jmax(a)attglobal.net writes: > > The following showed up on three different mailing > lists this morning. Apparently Kevin Mitnick will > be getting his ham license back. According to the > FCC database, however, his reactivation hasn't > happened yet. > > > The Washington Post carried the AP story this morning, which somewhat merged the concepts of "computer hacker" and "ham radio enthusiast". Mitnick's attorney was none other than the infamous (and very strange) Lauren Colby, who has written a book about how smoking is not harmful to your health. Lauren is also the attorney for Herb Schoenbaum. Chris

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[ARRL-ODV:8136] Hacker Kevin Mitnick to get ham license back
by Jim Maxwell 27 Dec '02

27 Dec '02

The following showed up on three different mailing lists this morning. Apparently Kevin Mitnick will be getting his ham license back. According to the FCC database, however, his reactivation hasn't happened yet. 73. Jim, W6CF From the New York Times -- <<http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/27/technology/27HACK.html>http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/27/technology/27HACK.html> F.C.C. Lets Convicted Hacker Go Back on Net By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS WASHINGTON, Dec. 26 (AP) A hacker once labeled by the federal government as "the most wanted computer criminal in U.S. history" has won a long fight to renew his ham radio license, and next month may resume surfing the Internet. The hacker, Kevin Mitnick, 39, of Thousand Oaks, Calif., served five years in federal prison for stealing software and altering data at Motorola, Novell, Nokia, Sun Microsystems and the University of Southern California. Prosecutors accused him of causing tens of millions of dollars in damage to corporate computer networks. Mr. Mitnick was freed in January 2000. The terms of his probation, which expires on Jan. 20, require that he get government permission before using computers, software, modems or any devices that connect to the Internet. His travel and employment also are limited. He has been allowed to use a cellphone and received permission this year to type a manuscript on a computer not connected to the Internet. "Not being allowed to use the Internet is kind of like not being allowed to use a telephone," Mr. Mitnick said today in a phone interview. He said he was starting a company to help companies protect themselves from computer attacks. Christopher Painter, deputy chief of the Justice Department's computer crime section and the former assistant United States attorney who prosecuted Mr. Mitnick, said that once Mr. Mitnick's probation is over, he will not be subject to any special surveillance. Mr. Mitnick led the Federal Bureau of Investigation on a three-year hunt that ended in 1995 when agents arrested him in an apartment in Raleigh, N.C., with help from a top security expert. During the chase, Mr. Mitnick continued breaking into computer networks and became a cult figure among hackers. He applied to renew his ham radio license in 1999, while in prison. The Federal Communications Commission ordered a hearing, noting that he once was "the most wanted computer criminal in U.S. history." Richard Sippel, an administrative law judge with the commission, granted the license in a ruling made public on Monday. Mr. Mitnick, who began using ham radios when he was 13, said it cost him more than $16,000 in legal expenses to persuade the commission to renew his license. Typically, renewals are free. Since his release from prison, Mr. Mitnick has appeared on television, as an expert witness in the courtroom and before Congress, offering advice about computer security. He also wrote a book, "The Art of Deception," which was published in October and describes ways in which computer network administrators are duped into revealing security details.

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[ARRL-ODV:8135] Re: Interesting Idea
by Greenheck, n0jph 26 Dec '02

26 Dec '02

I think it is a great idea. A North American School Radio Day could give the Big Project quite a boost. School administrators and instructors are more likly to be interested in using amateur radio in their schools after experiencing a national event demonstrating the merits and support of such a program. More ideas and possibilities come to mind as I think about it. Sounds like an idea that ARRL should explore. 73, Twila > I just got finished reading an article in Worldradio, January 03 > edition > (page 6), about a proposal for a North American school radio day. > The > article is authored by Ginger Eldridge KC5MTI. Couple of practical > but > small problems with the details as outlined but it sounds like it > could be > worked into a pretty neat deal. Anyone else read it? > > Would be interesting to tie this concept into ARISS contacts with > some > schools. 73, Rod > > >

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[ARRL-ODV:8134] Re: Interesting Idea
by Kay craigie 26 Dec '02

26 Dec '02

I saw it and also thought it was an interesting idea. Could someone make sure that F&ES has seen this article? I'm away from home at the present time, and don't have my copy of Worldradio. 73 - Kay WT3P

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