November 2002 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[ARRL-ODV:7998] Fwd: Thanksgiving Proclamation
by dick＠pobox.com 28 Nov '02

28 Nov '02

28 NOV, 2002 - 1345 CST A most interesting retrospective for this holiday... especially when measured against recent and current events. 73 - Dick, W9GIG ====================================================================== Washington, D.C. October 3, 1863 By the President of the United States of America. A Proclamation. The year that is drawing towards its close, has been filled with the blessings of fruitful fields and healthful skies. To these bounties, which are so constantly enjoyed that we are prone to forget the source from which they come, others have been added, which are of so extraordinary a nature, that they cannot fail to penetrate and soften even the heart which is habitually insensible to the ever watchful providence of Almighty God. In the midst of a civil war of unequaled magnitude and severity, which has sometimes seemed to foreign States to invite and to provoke their aggression, peace has been preserved with all nations, order has been maintained, the laws have been respected and obeyed, and harmony has prevailed everywhere except in the theatre of military conflict; while that theatre has been greatly contracted by the advancing armies and navies of the Union. Needful diversions of wealth and of strength from the fields of peaceful industry to the national defence, have not arrested the plough, the shuttle or the ship; the axe has enlarged the borders of our settlements, and the mines, as well of iron and coal as of the precious metals, have yielded even more abundantly than heretofore. Population has steadily increased, notwithstanding the waste that has been made in the camp, the siege and the battle-field; and the country, rejoicing in the consciousness of augmented strength and vigor, is permitted to expect continuance of years with large increase of freedom. No human counsel hath devised nor hath any mortal hand worked out these great things. They are the gracious gifts of the Most High God, who, while dealing with us in anger for our sins, hath nevertheless remembered mercy. It has seemed to me fit and proper that they should be solemnly, reverently and gratefully acknowledged as with one heart and one voice by the whole American People. I do therefore invite my fellow citizens in every part of the United States, and also those who are at sea and those who are sojourning in foreign lands, to set apart and observe the last Thursday of November next, as a day of Thanksgiving and Praise to our beneficent Father who dwelleth in the Heavens. And I recommend to them that while offering up the ascriptions justly due to Him for such singular deliverances and blessings, they do also, with humble penitence for our national perverseness and disobedience, commend to His tender care all those who have become widows, orphans, mourners or sufferers in the lamentable civil strife in which we are unavoidably engaged, and fervently implore the interposition of the Almighty Hand to heal the wounds of the nation and to restore it as soon as may be consistent with the Divine purposes to the full enjoyment of peace, harmony, tranquillity and Union. In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and caused the Seal of the United States to be affixed. Done at the City of Washington, this Third day of October, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty- three, and of the Independence of the Unites States the Eighty-eighth. By the President: Abraham Lincoln

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[ARRL-ODV:7997] Blocked ARRL Forwarded Email
by dick＠pobox.com 28 Nov '02

28 Nov '02

27 NOV, 2002 - 2335 CST Over this holiday weekend while you are eating your way through the turkey, give some thought about possible solutions to our growing problem with ARRL.NET email being blocked by ISPs. This problem is only going to get worse. Today, I floated a "trial balloon" with my Central division constituents who are signed up to receive email. I posted my experiences (in general) about spam and email transported viruses. My message went out at 1443 CST today. By 2218 CST, I had received 16 emails (all over the spectrum) on this topic. This is more than I have received to date, on any other hot button issue: Morse Code requirements, Novice Band Refarming, moving items out of QST, and the last dues increase. And this response was in less than 8 hours. I have no pat answers, but I believe something will have to be done in the near future. The choices may not be palatable, but I believe our continued status quo on ARRL.NET service is no longer an option. 73 - Dick, W9GIG ===================================================================== Delivered-To: grisely(a)speakeasy.net Received: (qmail 2472 invoked from network); 27 Nov 2002 21:38:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailer.remote.arrl.org) ([216.167.97.144]) (envelope-sender <list-bounce(a)mailer.remote.arrl.org>) by mail17.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <grisely(a)speakeasy.net>; 27 Nov 2002 21:38:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 10935 invoked by uid 501); 27 Nov 2002 20:43:48 -0000 Date: 27 Nov 2002 20:43:48 -0000 Message-ID: <20021127204348.10934.qmail(a)mailer.remote.arrl.org> From: "ARRL Web site" <memberlist(a)www.arrl.org> To: grisely(a)speakeasy.net Subject: ISP Blocking Of ARRL.NET Emails CC: Subscribed ARRL Members: ; 27 NOV, 2002 - 1200 CST Fellow Central Division ARRL Members... Those of you who are using the "free" Hotmail, Juno, and "purchased" MSN email accounts may not receive this message because your ISP has unilaterally blocked receipt of ALL email messages coming through ARRL.NET. This is rather ironic because virtually all the really fraudulent emails I receive, come in decending order from the first two of these Internet Service Providers. Over half the email virus payloads appear to come from Hotmail accounts. Those of you using these three ISPs, who will receive this message, should seriously consider switching to an ISP that at least works to eliminate this misuse of the Internet by it's subscribers. ARRL.NET is not an ISP and the ultimate responsibility for combating this growing problem belongs to the ISPs. I also ask the rest of you to communicate this message to your friends who will not receive it because of the blockage. What we are seeing appears to be the opening round in a battle between responsibile ISPs and those who run cut-rate operations designed to make money only from advertising. In other words, you get what you pay for. Member email forwarding services, such as that provided by ARRL, AMSAT, Etc., are getting caught in the middle of this fight. Frankly, the best solution is to subscribe (pay money) to responsible Internet Service Providers. Thanks & 73 - George R. Isely, W9GIG Central Division Director -------------------------------------------------------------------- ARRL Central Division Director: George Isely, W9GIG w9gig(a)arrl.org -------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is being sent to you via the ARRL Members Only Web site. If you do not want to receive further messages, go to the site at: http://www.arrl.org/members-only/memdata.html?modify=1 Log in with your username and password and change your email options. Unchecking the "Division/Section notices" box will prevent messages such as this one from being sent to you. -- webmaster(a)arrl.org

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[ARRL-ODV:7996] IN-News
by Kustosik, Lisa, KA1UFZ 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

IN-Newsletter Vol. 25, No. 47 November 26, 2002 Upcoming Meetings January 17-18, 2003 in Windsor, CT Board Meeting CEO The ARRL HQ will be closed on Thursday the 28th and Friday the 29th in observance of the Thanksgiving Holiday. Sending good wishes your way for a safe and happy holiday weekend! Lisa Kustosik and the Election Committee would like to thank Greg Kwasowski, Mark Dzamba, Jan Carman, Lynne Anderson, Helen Dalton, Linda Kleinschmidt, Kim Rochette, Steve Ewald, Chuck Skolaut, Jerry Hill, Linda Mullally, Sharon Taratula, Heather Dzamba and Ann Brinius for making ballot counting go so smoothly this year. Thanks also to the managers who also contributed to the effort by supplying the staff. Development ARRL was represented at the annual Radio Club of America Banquet at the New York Athletic Club on Friday, November 22. Mary Hobart joined Hudson Division Director Frank Fallon, N2FF, and ARRL member Jerry Agliata, W2GLA, and their wives at the dinner honoring many pioneers in wireless communications. Especially important was news that the Radio Club is considering an annual grant to ARRL to support the Education & Technology Program, based on preliminary contacts made by Walt Stinson, W0CP, and President Jim Haynie, W5JBP. The National Journal, a weekly publication on politics and government, published an article about the recipients of CNCS grants for Homeland Security in the November 23 edition. The article profiles three grantees, including ARRL. The 5,000 readership of this journal are government employees and politicians. The 2003 Defense Fund has reached $154,000 from 3,765 members in 18 working days. The average gift has climbed to $41 per contribution. Several contributions of $1,000 and $500 have been counted so far. The campaign goal is to raise $500,000 by December 31...so make your contribution today, by phone, mail or online at www.arrl.org. The Diamond Club continues to count new donors. The program has attracted 335 donors contributing a total of $49,745. There are 30 contributors donating $250 a year or more. Inquiries continue to come in via phone and email, proving that there is lots of interest in the program. Media Relations Jennifer wrote and distributed a press release to approximately 300 media outlets in the areas affected by the November 10 tornadoes. We were able to obtain a quote from an official in Tennessee who praised the work of ham radio operators. A recent USA Today article focused on the very real problem faced by fire, police and other agencies who find it difficult to communicate amongst themselves during times of emergency. One of the problems is the incompatibility of communications equipment. In response to that article, Jennifer submitted a letter to the editor detailing some of ways ham radio has helped town officials and agencies during emergencies, particularly during situations involving breaks in communications between the responding emergency officials. "Media Hits" and a few items for the new "ARRL in Action" were submitted for the January issue of QST. A piece announcing the upcoming deadline for Leonard Award nominations was sent to Rick for the Web. Another submission for the award was received this week. While on vacation, Jennifer was interviewed by a reporter with the Dallas Morning News. The article will focus on ARRL's "Big Project" pilot school, De Goyler. The reporter was impressed by the youth involvement in ham radio and she wanted to know more about the benefits of getting young people into ham radio. Production/Editorial The January issue of QST has been released to the printer. Special thanks to Shelly Bloom, who spent a large part of Saturday, November 23, compiling the advertising section. Jodi Morin was also in the office on the same day, working on the periodicals CD project. Speaking of January QST, effective with this issue, "ARRL in Action," a new section toward the front of each issue, will focus on what ARRL is doing on behalf of our members. There has been a slight reshuffling of the front section to accommodate the new feature. The "Guide to ARRL Member Services" appears on pages 14 and 15, while Directors and Vice Directors are listed on page 15. The list of Section Managers is on page 16. Jodi Morin, Bob Inderbitzen, Dennis Motschenbacher, Joel Kleinman and Steve Ford planned the look and content of the new feature. Dave Hassler, K7CCC, is the primary author of the news items in this section. On November 27, the ARRLWeb inaugurates a new section devoted to QST (www.arrl.org/qst) It will provide a complete list of the contents of the current issue, along with a downloadable sample article or column. Hyperlinks take readers to related pages on the Web site -- the Product Review archive, propagation charts, Amateur Radio glossary, VHF/UHF standings, QST Feedback (corrections to past articles), The ARRL Letter and much more. The QST page will be updated at the end of every month. The project was a collaboration between the QST editorial, marketing and electronic publications departments. Tom Hogerty, Jon Bloom, Dennis Motschenbacher, Bob Inderbitzen, Joel Kleinman and Steve Ford took part in the planning and rollout of the new section. Sales and Marketing Advertising The January issue has been shipped to the printer. Ad pages are slightly under target for this issue, as the advertisers seem to have used up their ad dollars for the December issue. They will be making a comeback early next year. Staff is currently busy gathering insertions for the February 2003 issue with an early ship date of December 19! Charles Abramson, VP of Marketing for Cable X-Perts stopped at HQ for a visit. Charles shared exciting news of Cable X-Perts recent expansion of their market by selling through local dealers. Cable X-Perts has been in business since 1988 and continues to grow. Hopefully, we'll see the same with their advertising. Deb Jahnke spent quite a bit of time on the phone with Paul Middleton of Kenwood, gleaning details of some organizational changes and how they will affect Kenwood's advertising relationship with ARRL. A follow-up telephone call to discuss specifics is planned for early next week. Quotes have been obtained to provide several key advertisers with alternative advertising methods. Proposals will follow shortly. Marketing QEX and NCJ magazines enjoyed nice bumps in new subscribers during November. There has been a flurry of online sign-ups since the email solicitation conducted on November 5: NCJ--33 new, 10 renewals; QEX--107 new, 40 renewals. A new membership ad was produced for January QST. The piece includes an open letter from President Haynie in which he draws attention to the important contributions of all ARRL members. Bob Inderbitzen crafted written sales text and cover details for the upcoming new ARRL book, Experimental Methods in RF Design. Another book published by Chelsea Green Publishing Company has been added to our product offerings: Wind Power for Home and Business, ARRL Order No. 8867, retail $35.00, <http://www.arrl.org/catalog/?item=8867>. Sales Deb participated in a computer progress meeting to better define current issues so that they can be prioritized and solutions can be handled in a methodical manner. In addition, Deb continues to work on the creation of sales and other related reports. Membership Services Awards Branch WAS QSL Cards Checked 450 WAS Endorsements (100-F/C, 100-ES) 4 WAC QSL Cards Checked 36 Extra Class Certificates 21 A-1 Operator Nominations 6 A-1 Operator Certificates 2 Long Term Member Inquiries 1 VUCC QSL Cards Checked 50 VUCC Backfill Application 1 Grids (Data Entry) 226 VUCC Endorsement Applications 19 Grids (Data Entry) 1048 HF Awards Manager appointment: John Gagen, W2YR, Avon-by-the-Sea, NJ. Processing Status: Current or within three weeks. For the coming very short week-WAS QSL card checking, order 5BWAS plates, mail out Extra Class certificates, and process VUCC initial awards. DXCC Branch Weekly Report November 24, 2002 Beginning Cards 225,366 Cards Received 1,295 Cards Processed 29,449 Ending Cards 197,212 Applications Pending 2,021 Processing Time 8.8 Weeks Year-to-date Cards Received 700,428 Cards Returned 584,553 QRPs Issued this week 1 QRPs YTD 253 DXCC is currently mailing applications received on September 24, 2002. DXCC is currently entering cards received on September 24, 2002. QSL Branch QSL service status: Current. Cards mailed year to date as of 11/24/2002-1,738,115. No cards were mailed this week. Heather Dzamba spent 4 hours conducting tours around HQ. W1AW To date, there are currently 107 submissions for the 2002 W1AW FMT. Joe Carcia created an Access database to deal with the FMT submissions. He tracked down a problem with two Harris exciters having difficulties. He also reorganized the workshop, which included installing shelving units on the walls in the shop. Joe also updated the web code practice files and processed regular W1AW QSL card requests. Scott Gee worked on fast and slow code practice runs for the latter part of the month of November. He also handled some evening phone sales calls in the 5 PM to 8 PM time slot. W1AW Telephone Sales year to date (2002): $10,475. Field & Educational Services Rosalie compiled school statistics for the year 2002 to NASA Hq. She forwarded two officer nominations to the ARISS election committee, and participated in an ARISS-International telecon and a VRC telecon. She reviewed a National Guard CD on response to 9/11--it included 6 situation reports from SMs that Rosalie provided to the National Guard. She also answered two new questionnaires on Amateur Radio emergency response. Regulatory Information John Hennessee completed Chapter 10 of the FCC Rule Book. He coordinated with a ham in Bangladesh and the ARRL Technical Development Office on a possible reciprocal agreement with that country if their government wants it. He assisted amateurs with local government zoning problems in Diamondville, WY (N7ERH) and Cook County, MN (KB0BDN). A member wrote about John's assistance: "The ongoing efforts of the League continue to benefit our fraternity, and will continue to have my support, including membership." Field & Education Support Team Mary Lau assisted a Maine club in ways to use the web to find local students to apply for their school scholarship for ham radio operators. She also helped Kristy Perillo with paperwork preps for the Foundation's upcoming audit, and coordinated printing and web file bundling for F&ES's new youth brochure. Margie Bourgoin spent time trouble-shooting various issues for clubs this week. She also processed one new SSC application and 2 renewals. She helped Jean with revisions to the Terms of Reference for selected EAD-based awards and sent notices of that out to affiliated clubs. Linda Mullally registered 2 schoolteachers and 7 volunteer instructors. She also updated 34 club records, with 4 reactivations. Jean Wolfgang responded to emails requesting information on ARISS contacts and provided information for clubs in their area. She is looking into creating some ham radio puzzle activity sheets for students and teachers. Gail Iannone reviewed and tested the new on-line hamfest/convention application form that went "live" at http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/hamfests/regform.html. She also sent 5 hamfest approval letters and 1 convention approval letter to the sponsoring committees confirming the Division Director's approval for the events to be ARRL-sanctioned; sent a Wouff Hong supply package for the Florida State Convention, and processed 2 label requests, 3 door prize orders and sent 3 packages of handouts for upcoming hamfests. Amateur Radio Education and Technology Project Jerry Hill hosted 4 West Haven (CT) High School teachers (science, math, technology, media/journalism). They heard about satellites from Steve Ford, and toured the Lab with Ed Hare. Jerry got them on the air from W1AW with a Big Project school in New York. Jerry was invited to visit their high school and the district superintendent, plus give a presentation at the CT State Science Supervisors Conference in May. In turn, the science teacher will assist with integrating science fairs into The Big Project. EmComm Grants Dan Miller reports new CNCS-sponsored Level l classes began this week. Up to 200 more students can register for a December class on the 3rd. A total of 889 students are enrolled in number CNCS-sponsored classes, and 239 have graduated. New mentors sign up almost daily. A total of 205 graduates have completed the UTC-sponsored Level l classes. Dan will host a seminar at the Florida State Convention, and 15 people have signed up thus far. Dan was a guest speaker at the Farmington Valley Men's Club. Field Organization/Public Service Team Steve Ewald reports ballots for 3 SM elections were counted and verified by staff in F&ES. Re-elected were WCF SM Dave Armbrust, AE4MR, and WPA SM John Rodgers, N3MSE. Jim Boehner, N2ZZ, of South Carolina, becomes a new SM starting January 1. Leona and Steve compiled results for our news staff. Leona Adams reports that a second SM nomination petition from Montana arrived, from Doug Dunn, K7YD. Incumbent Orange Section SM Joe Brown, W6UBQ has been nominated for the next term starting April, 2003. With thanks to Webmaster Jon Bloom, the "Section News Summary" is available to SMs to upload a monthly summary of news and activities to their SM Web Page, and become archived. This section summary report will be sent directly to ARRL members via e-mail. Those members who don't have access to e-mail may write to us to receive the Section News summary via US Mail. Over 12 SMs have posted a summary using this service during the first few days it's existed. Steve continues to assist SMs and is clarifying these new procedures. Chuck is now reviewing Section Manager messages for relay by e-mail to their ARRL members. This week, one message each was handled from MS, CT, AR. Chuck has been receiving several reports of unidentified signals on 20 and 30 meters that were transmitting 5-letter coded groups. We have asked assistance from Field Organization leaders to gather more of these reports. CCE Jerry Ellis opened Antenna Modeling and ARECC Level ll classes this week, and he selected mentors for the Satellite Communications class opening Monday. He created graduation lists for CNCS reimbursement checks. He printed certificates and ID cards using new procedures that have caused the backlog of requests for certificates to be nearly gone. Jerry is compiling data to help with documenting procedures used in administering the CCE program. Beta-testing of the RFI course continues; Howard Robins reports 7 people finished and 4 of them volunteered to be mentors. Comments have been very favorable; Howard is making recommended edits to the draft. The new CCE pre-registration process flagged 36 requests for reminders, 23 for the Level l course. The first batch of CNCS-sponsored Level 1 grad certificates and ID cards was printed using the new data extraction process Howard set up. The process also helps track progress of Dan's grant-funded grads. We hope to see an increase in traffic because of our December QST ad. Ten individuals volunteered to be new mentors for our technical (non-AREC) courses. Most are completing familiarization exercises developed by Dan Miller and Terry Dettmann, our volunteer mentor coordinator. 73, Sincerely, Mark Wilson, K1RO Chief Operating Officer MW:lk Staff Absentee List Name Date(s) Reason All Staff 11/28-11/29 Holiday Dave Sumner 11/17-11/30 CPM, Geneva Dave Patton 11/27-12/3 Vacation Carol Patton 11/27-12/3 Vacation Lisa Kustosik 12/5-12/6 Vacation Hanan Rayyashi 12/5-12/6 Vacation Jennifer Hagy 11/25-11/27 Vacation Steve Ford 11/27-12/2 Vacation Bob Inderbitzen 12/6 Vacation Jan Carman 11/25-11/27 Vacation Rick Lindquist 11/25-11/27 Vacation Wayne Mills 11/15-11/26 Vacation Dan Henderson 11/21-12/2 Italy Convention / vacation Rosalie White 12/2-12/3 Vacation `` 12/4-12/5 ARISS-Intl meeting, Goddard Sp Flt Ctr Steve Ewald 12/2-12/5 Vacation Dan Miller 12/7-12/9 Florida State Convention, Tampa Gail Iannone 12/23-1/3 Vacation Eileen Sapko 11/27 Vacation Joe Carcia 12/2 Vacation Scott Gee 12/6 Vacation Mike Tracy 12/2-12/6 Vacation Helen Dalton 11/27 Vacation

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[ARRL-ODV:7995] Re: Continuing Saga
by dick＠pobox.com 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

27 NOV, 2002 - 1125 CST Virtually all the Nigerian, Russian, Yugoslavian, South African, etc., scam email messages I see originate thru Hotmail accounts. Over half the email virus payloads I see come from Hotmail. I am increasingly tempted to auto-block and bounce all inbound hotmail-originated email messages and then post a message on the five controlled non-ARRL reflectors I am subscribed to, and the Central Division membership telling everyone why I am doing this. In the following order of priority, Yahoo, Juno, and even MSN would not be far behind on my hit list. Happy Thanksgiving to all of you and your families. 73 - Dick, W9GIG

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[ARRL-ODV:7994] Re: Continuing Saga
by sysop＠bfdin.com 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

I like your style. <grin> - Bill N3LLR AR>Since MSN and Hotmail are essentially free email services, pulling out even AR>100k users would have a minimal impact on them and their millions of users. AR>However, their Achilles' heel is their advertiser base. Mess with their AR>revenue source and you will get their attention. AR>Have a nice Thanksgiving, all!!! AR>73, Gary KI4LA AR>on 11/27/02 10:36 AM, Shelley, Barry, N1VXY at bshelley(a)arrl.org wrote: AR>> Tuck: AR>> AR>> While attractive on the surface, I don't think it would be in the ARRL's b AR>> interests to be seen as advocating this type of position. I don't want to AR>> to war with Microsoft...heck, the government couldn't win that one. But I AR>> admit....deep down, there's a part of me that would like to. AR>> AR>> And, just for everyone's information, some of our arrl.net customers have AR>> indicated that this is the route they are taking with Juno.com. AR>> AR>> 73, AR>> Barry, N1VXY AR>>> -----Original Message----- AR>>> From: Miller, Tuck (Vice Dir, SW) AR>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:31 AM AR>>> To: arrl-odv AR>>> Subject: [ARRL-ODV:7988] Re: Continuing Saga AR>>> AR>>> Wonder what JUNO's or even MSN's response would be if our members who ha AR>>> paid accounts with their services would discontinue their accounts and go AR>>> elsewhere. Curious to see if that would change their minds.... 73, Hap AR>>> Thanksgiving to all, AR>>> AR>>> Tuck NZ6T

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[ARRL-ODV:7993] Re: Continuing Saga
by Tom Frenaye 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

A timely IT industry opinion about spam issues - showing why applying spam filtering at ISPs (or at home, or with ARRL's e-mail forwarding service) is likely the least-effective solution. -- Tom http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/11/25/021125opwinman.xml From Information World 11/25/02 Window Manager Brian Livingston The e-mail scandal A new study shows that 11.7 percent of messages that were requested by an e-mail subscriber never reached the recipient's inbox. Six percent were incorrectly routed to a junk mail folder, and 5.7 percent never arrived in any form. The problem is faulty spam filters put in place by major ISPs such as Earthlink, MSN, and AOL. In their attempts to reduce UBE (unsolicited bulk e-mail, or spam), these services appear to be whacking many messages people actually want. The author of the study, George Bilbrey, used a simple method. He obtained several e-mail accounts from each major ISP. He then subscribed to 20 companies' e-mail alerts and watched his inboxes for three months. The result? Almost one in eight messages didn't make it. Of course, this study is small and a bit subjective. Bilbrey is CEO of Assurance Systems (www.assurancesys.com) a new service that tracks whether or not your messages are arriving. We desperately need a large, academic study to give us hard numbers. If you're a researcher who's done such a study, fax me at (206) 282-6312. The findings lend weight to a growing scandal I've been investigating. You can no longer rely on e-mail delivery. With UBE nearing 50 percent of all e-mail traffic, crude spam filters are the rage. Online billing, order updates, and other messages crucial to business can't be counted on. In the latest development, AOL's new 8.0 version provides a Report As Spam button. One legitimate e-mail service says 99 percent of its spam complaints now come from AOL (www.dmnews.com/cgi-bin/artprevbot.cgi?article_id=22101) That's because end-users have redefined spam to include "anything I signed up for that I no longer want." They've been told, "Never click Unsubscribe or you'll get more spam." This advice is dead wrong; spammers don't care who unsubscribes and don't value tiny opt-out lists. But users now think crying "spam" is unsubscribing. I sympathize with people who are desperate to stop the flow. But spam filters put a Band-Aid on the wrong end of the problem. When a broken pipe is filling your basement with water, bailing away with a bucket does little good. The only solution is to find the intake valve and shut it off. I wrote seven months ago that UBE was quadrupling annually. (See "You can stop spam".) In two years, 16 times more spam will hit your router. This spells gridlock. Junk faxes and automated telemarketing calls are already against federal law. Adding "unsolicited bulk e-mail" to the act would be a big help. But it's strongly opposed by the Direct Marketing Association (DMA), a lobbying group for 4,700 companies. "We don't think an opt-in regime has economic viability," says DMA Senior Vice President Jerry Cerasale. "If you go with opt-in, you foreclose the economic viability of this as a marketing channel." It's insane for DMA members to send e-mail to people who didn't request it. Thanks to this lunacy, soon only HALF your e-mail will get through. ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[ARRL-ODV:7992] Re: Continuing Saga
by Shelley, Barry, N1VXY 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

Actually, we have 1,463 arrl.net subscribers forwarding their mail to msn.com accounts. There were significantly more on Hotmail....not surprising I guess since Hotmail is free. MSN, however, is a commercial ISP I believe. 73, Barry, N1VXY -----Original Message----- From: Johnston, Gary (Dir, GL) Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:57 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:7991] Re: Continuing Saga Since MSN and Hotmail are essentially free email services, pulling out even 100k users would have a minimal impact on them and their millions of users. However, their Achilles' heel is their advertiser base. Mess with their revenue source and you will get their attention. Have a nice Thanksgiving, all!!! 73, Gary KI4LA on 11/27/02 10:36 AM, Shelley, Barry, N1VXY at bshelley(a)arrl.org wrote: Tuck: While attractive on the surface, I don't think it would be in the ARRL's best interests to be seen as advocating this type of position. I don't want to go to war with Microsoft...heck, the government couldn't win that one. But I must admit....deep down, there's a part of me that would like to. And, just for everyone's information, some of our arrl.net customers have indicated that this is the route they are taking with Juno.com. 73, Barry, N1VXY -----Original Message----- From: Miller, Tuck (Vice Dir, SW) Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:31 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:7988] Re: Continuing Saga Wonder what JUNO's or even MSN's response would be if our members who have paid accounts with their services would discontinue their accounts and go elsewhere. Curious to see if that would change their minds.... 73, Happy Thanksgiving to all, Tuck NZ6T

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[ARRL-ODV:7991] Re: Continuing Saga
by Gary Johnston 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

Since MSN and Hotmail are essentially free email services, pulling out even 100k users would have a minimal impact on them and their millions of users. However, their Achilles' heel is their advertiser base. Mess with their revenue source and you will get their attention. Have a nice Thanksgiving, all!!! 73, Gary KI4LA on 11/27/02 10:36 AM, Shelley, Barry, N1VXY at bshelley(a)arrl.org wrote: > Tuck: > > While attractive on the surface, I don't think it would be in the ARRL's best > interests to be seen as advocating this type of position. I don't want to go > to war with Microsoft...heck, the government couldn't win that one. But I must > admit....deep down, there's a part of me that would like to. > > And, just for everyone's information, some of our arrl.net customers have > indicated that this is the route they are taking with Juno.com. > > 73, > Barry, N1VXY >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Miller, Tuck (Vice Dir, SW) >> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:31 AM >> To: arrl-odv >> Subject: [ARRL-ODV:7988] Re: Continuing Saga >> >> Wonder what JUNO's or even MSN's response would be if our members who have >> paid accounts with their services would discontinue their accounts and go >> elsewhere. Curious to see if that would change their minds.... 73, Happy >> Thanksgiving to all, >> >> Tuck NZ6T

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[ARRL-ODV:7990] Re: Continuing Saga
by sysop＠bfdin.com 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

Tuck, probably not enough business to bother juno or msn... - Bill N3LLR AR>Wonder what JUNO's or even MSN's response would be if our members who AR>have paid accounts with their services would discontinue their accounts AR>and go elsewhere. Curious to see if that would change their minds.... AR> 73, Happy Thanksgiving to all, AR>Tuck NZ6T AR>Shelley, Barry, N1VXY wrote: AR>> We have confirmation this morning that MSN is now also blocking mail AR>> being forwarded to their customers from the arrl.net server. But in an AR>> even more draconian move, they have also blocked mail from the whole AR>> range of IP addresses held by our vendor in Indiana, DCC. This means AR>> there is no mail for any DCC customer that is being accepted by MSN. AR>> AR>> We are trying to contact someone at MSN to resolve this situation. AR>> Unfortunately, our member who helped us with Hotmail is apparently on AR>> the wrong side of some Chinese Wall in the beauracracy of the AR>> Microsoft Network and can't be as helpful as he was in resolving the AR>> Hotmail situation. Oh yes, Juno has been basically unresponsive to AR>> this point as well, despite several e-mail messages from our members AR>> to the president of Juno. AR>> AR>> I will be sending a message out to our arrl.net users who are having AR>> their mail forwarded to msn.com accounts this morning. AR>> AR>> On a more pleasant note. Have a Happy Thanksgiving. AR>> AR>> 73, AR>> Barry, N1VXY AR>> AR>-- AR>************************************************ AR>ARRL AR>The national association for Amateur Radio AR>Remember, Helping Others....Always Worthwhile!! AR>Southwestern Division Vice Director AR>Are you a member yet? If not, please join! AR>Personal Web Page: http://www.qsl.net/nz6t

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[ARRL-ODV:7989] Re: Continuing Saga
by Shelley, Barry, N1VXY 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

Tuck: While attractive on the surface, I don't think it would be in the ARRL's best interests to be seen as advocating this type of position. I don't want to go to war with Microsoft...heck, the government couldn't win that one. But I must admit....deep down, there's a part of me that would like to. And, just for everyone's information, some of our arrl.net customers have indicated that this is the route they are taking with Juno.com. 73, Barry, N1VXY -----Original Message----- From: Miller, Tuck (Vice Dir, SW) Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:31 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:7988] Re: Continuing Saga Wonder what JUNO's or even MSN's response would be if our members who have paid accounts with their services would discontinue their accounts and go elsewhere. Curious to see if that would change their minds.... 73, Happy Thanksgiving to all, Tuck NZ6T Shelley, Barry, N1VXY wrote: We have confirmation this morning that MSN is now also blocking mail being forwarded to their customers from the arrl.net server. But in an even more draconian move, they have also blocked mail from the whole range of IP addresses held by our vendor in Indiana, DCC. This means there is no mail for any DCC customer that is being accepted by MSN. We are trying to contact someone at MSN to resolve this situation. Unfortunately, our member who helped us with Hotmail is apparently on the wrong side of some Chinese Wall in the beauracracy of the Microsoft Network and can't be as helpful as he was in resolving the Hotmail situation. Oh yes, Juno has been basically unresponsive to this point as well, despite several e-mail messages from our members to the president of Juno. I will be sending a message out to our arrl.net users who are having their mail forwarded to msn.com accounts this morning. On a more pleasant note. Have a Happy Thanksgiving. 73, Barry, N1VXY -- ************************************************ ARRL The national association for Amateur Radio Remember, Helping Others....Always Worthwhile!! Southwestern Division Vice Director Are you a member yet? If not, please join! Personal Web Page: http://www.qsl.net/nz6t

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